The Iraq Double Standard

[Smiley and West]

	Smiley: “Conflict, war seems to be the answer to every problem we have in the world.”     West: “Our media won't talk about it and therefore downplay the moral sensitivities of fellow citizens.”

[sharon lovely]

Today in America citizens have displayed great apathy in respect to the War in Iraq...I am not surprized of this impassiveness or indifference.It seems to me if you do not have a realitive ,a friend, neighbor etc. fighting this war then the loss of human life no matter what side you are on is trivial to some.I being a daughter of an American Veteran on the other hand I am very sympathetic because I have witness first hand what War does ...it destroys ... mind, body and spirit.Eventhough the media shows us views of the fighting from time to time...American citizens have become complacent because of all the violent images we see on a daily basis on our televisions.So when you they report the massive numbers of Iraqi civilians... the innocent being killed citizens often flip to another channel like it does not concern them...where is their humanity?I say beware remember six degrees of separation laws...this could be the U.S. in the future. As far as Wikileaks releasing these reports ...i think it is admirable because now in this computer age with information at our finger tips...it is what any true muckraker would do.The Truth will always prevail in good journalism....in these times there is nowhere to hide.

[Oskar Rubato]

Neither Vietnam (which really began in 1958) nor Afghanistan is the real longest external war in our history.

What I don't hear either of you talking about is the real duration of our intervention in Iraq--I mean to assert that USA has been in Iraq, on the ground, in the air and on the water, since GHWBush stuck his military phallacy into it in 1991. We have been killing Iraqis since then, all the way through both Clinton, both W and now half of Barack's administrations. That is more than nineteen years.

Madeleine Albright on television, 1998: "The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children is an acceptable cost of American foreign policy." Economic war is war. Covert ops is war.

More than one million Iraqis dead is the more likely figure, and bugger the DoD's assertions. I think it's hypocrisy to talk about it at all if one forgets the first twelve years of it--and I know you two aren't hypocrites, are you.

[Valarie Jacobs]

No, I wouldn't refer to it as being hypocritical but rather my time is limited when I'm online. I answer to other sites and other people's comments, I'm a full time student, business owner, and I am working on my own Discussion Forum. There is so so much that has happened over the last 20 years that it is almost impossible to sit and type everything without missing something of importance. That's why as an open forum some one can cover what the other may have miss. How ever, the Vietnam War, there still isn't a real explanation of "why". Although, we have received some answers but that's not all to say of truth. For example, why bomb the whole place and then retreat as a spoiled little child who knew he/she did something they had no business doing? So, see we have a lot of unanswered questions even though we can see and know there is some "stinkin thinkin" behind closed doors.

Oskar Rubato said:

Neither Vietnam (which really began in 1958) nor Afghanistan is the real longest external war in our history.

What I don't hear either of you talking about is the real duration of our intervention in Iraq--I mean to assert that USA has been in Iraq, on the ground, in the air and on the water, since GHWBush stuck his military phallacy into it in 1991. We have been killing Iraqis since then, all the way through both Clinton, both W and now half of Barack's administrations. That is more than nineteen years.

Madeleine Albright on television, 1998: "The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children is an acceptable cost of American foreign policy." Economic war is war. Covert ops is war.

More than one million Iraqis dead is the more likely figure, and bugger the DoD's assertions. I think it's hypocrisy to talk about it at all if one forgets the first twelve years of it--and I know you two aren't hypocrites, are you.

[DEBORAH J. STEELE]

Greetings: To (Smiley & West) Website Team Members,

First, I would like to say: “Thanks to all of you” for your “heart-felt & compassionate” point of views, in reference to our discussion on: (The Iraq Double Standards)! …

It’s truly, fascinating, to “hear” how much (we / as human advocate‘s), have in common! … After carefully, reviewing your comments, and seeing the “diversity” in your expressed views, they all seem to collaborate as one!!!! … (smile)…

Thanks again, to (all) of you, for your responses, and I encourage you, to “continue” to “share your point of views”, on this “wonderful & dynamitic” community website; here on: (Smiley & West), and keep both of your “eyes & ears open” for the: (“future untold truths“) that, are about to be “revealed”, in regards to: (America)! …

I personally, feel that, (America) is like the: (Titanic) … Reflecting back, on the “previous years” during our country’s history, it may have “appeared” to be like the: (un-sinkable large ship)!!! … They - (our selected / appointed leaders), wanted to (convey / convenience) to the other nations, that we are invincible!!! …

However, I am (often) reminded, of a (small PBS clip) that, I had once viewed on television from: (Dr. Martin Luther King), and in one of his “profound” speeches, he “clearly & prophetically” said: “America, you’re being too arrogant!” … and God will brake your back bone!!!!!!!! …

But, as you will see, in the “future days ahead”, and you continue to view our nations: (head-lines), and listen to the (radio discussions & shared debates), that are being presented right before your eyes, and view the “current events” that, are taken place, you can see, “clearly see” (from a spiritual point of view) that, (God’s word) which, “never returns to him void”, but accomplishes all that, he said that, would take place, in “our life time” during these “last days” are truly, being fulfilled! … “Just continue to watch & see!” … I do look forward, in hearing back from you all, very soon! …

Final comments: “Continue to “stay focus” on the “truth of God‘s word” and do not “compromise” what-so-forever!!! … And continue to “be strong & of good courage” and to “encourage on another”, to keep hold to the faith!!!” …

Sincerely, with Blessings & Beyond,
Your Watchful & Listening Angel in Atlanta,
Ms. Deborah J. Steele
11/06/10

[DEBORAH J. STEELE]

Greetings: To (Smiley & West) Website Team Members,

First, I would like to say: “Thanks to all of you” for your “heart-felt & compassionate” point of views, in reference to our discussion on: (The Iraq Double Standards)! …

It’s truly, fascinating, to “hear” how much (we / as human advocate‘s), have in common! … After carefully, reviewing your comments, and seeing the “diversity” in your expressed views, they all seem to collaborate as one!!!! … (smile)…

Thanks again, to (all) of you, for your responses, and I encourage you, to “continue” to “share your point of views”, on this “wonderful & dynamitic” community website; here on: (Smiley & West), and keep both of your “eyes & ears open” for the: (“future untold truths“) that, are about to be “revealed”, in regards to: (America)! …

I personally, feel that, (America) is like the: (Titanic) … Reflecting back, on the “previous years” during our country’s history, it may have “appeared” to be like the: (un-sinkable large ship)!!! … They - (our selected / appointed leaders), wanted to (convey / convenience) to the other nations, that we are invincible!!! …

However, I am (often) reminded, of a (small PBS clip) that, I had once viewed on television from: (Dr. Martin Luther King), and in one of his “profound” speeches, he “clearly & prophetically” said: “America, you’re being too arrogant!” … and God will brake your back bone!!!!!!!! …

But, as you will see, in the “future days ahead”, and you continue to view our nations: (head-lines), and listen to the (radio discussions & shared debates), that are being presented right before your eyes, and view the “current events” that, are taken place, you can see, “clearly see” (from a spiritual point of view) that, (God’s word) which, “never returns to him void”, but accomplishes all that, he said that, would take place, in “our life time” during these “last days” are truly, being fulfilled! … “Just continue to watch & see!” … I do look forward, in hearing back from you all, very soon! …

Final comments: “Continue to “stay focus” on the “truth of God‘s word” and do not “compromise” what-so-forever!!! … And continue to “be strong & of good courage” and to “encourage on another”, to keep hold to the faith!!!” …

Sincerely, with Blessings & Beyond,
Your Watchful & Listening Angel in Atlanta,
Ms. Deborah J. Steele
11/06/10

[DEBORAH J. STEELE]

Greetings: To (Smiley & West) Website Team Members,

First, I would like to say: “Thanks to all of you” for your “heart-felt & compassionate” point of views, in reference to our discussion on: (The Iraq Double Standards)! …

It’s truly, fascinating, to “hear” how much (we / as human advocate‘s), have in common! … After carefully, reviewing your comments, and seeing the “diversity” in your expressed views, they all seem to collaborate as one!!!! … (smile)…

Thanks again, to (all) of you, for your responses, and I encourage you, to “continue” to “share your point of views”, on this “wonderful & dynamitic” community website; here on: (Smiley & West), and keep both of your “eyes & ears open” for the: (“future untold truths“) that, are about to be “revealed”, in regards to: (America)! …

I personally, feel that, (America) is like the: (Titanic) … Reflecting back, on the “previous years” during our country’s history, it may have “appeared” to be like the: (un-sinkable large ship)!!! … They - (our selected / appointed leaders), wanted to (convey / convenience) to the other nations, that we are invincible!!! …

However, I am (often) reminded, of a (small PBS clip) that, I had once viewed on television from: (Dr. Martin Luther King), and in one of his “profound” speeches, he “clearly & prophetically” said: “America, you’re being too arrogant!” … and God will brake your back bone!!!!!!!! …

But, as you will see, in the “future days ahead”, and you continue to view our nations: (head-lines), and listen to the (radio discussions & shared debates), that are being presented right before your eyes, and view the “current events” that, are taken place, you can see, “clearly see” (from a spiritual point of view) that, (God’s word) which, “never returns to him void”, but accomplishes all that, he said that, would take place, in “our life time” during these “last days” are truly, being fulfilled! … “Just continue to watch & see!” … I do look forward, in hearing back from you all, very soon! …

Final comments: “Continue to “stay focus” on the “truth of God‘s word” and do not “compromise” what-so-forever!!! … And continue to “be strong & of good courage” and to “encourage on another”, to keep hold to the faith!!!” …

Sincerely, with Blessings & Beyond,
Your Watchful & Listening Angel in Atlanta,
Ms. Deborah J. Steele
11/06/10







Valarie Jacobs said:

Absolutely!

Princess Black said:

I can see the viewpoint of both Smiley & West and the members of this page that have replied. I am in agreement with a lot of what is being said. The question to me is - have we become desensitized to war or the Commandments? It seems to me that as long as you are under a certain umbrella then the killing is justified and even rewarded. Whichever country or continent one is a citizen of. Of course, war occurred for longer than all of us has lived. As the saying goes, what goes on in the dark will be bought to the light. Therefore, it won't be long until we all know the full truth. Not just the ones the journalists want to present.

Peace

[Jamie Rene Turner, Sr]

The foreign media should be viewed daily by all. It's objective and not subjective.....................

[Penguin Board of Directors]

Makes sense to me.

Valarie Jacobs said:

To answer the question in regards to "the bodies" would be like answering in the form of a question, is there really a war? I don't know about other states or cities, but in Cleveland, Ohio a soldier who has lost his/her life in this "war" their names, photo, family history, and etc are released. Again, to respond to the question about the "bodies" of "soldiers" and the "Iraqi" people would again be like saying their is a conspiracy in our government. Which by no means be of doubt to a vast majority of American people. However, we as Christians have been told that "we will hear of wars and rumors of wars." For example, Neil Armstrong and the Apollo, how many times has it been said that that particular movement never occurred? Yet and still it was taught, preached, and instilled in our minds and even up to today it is being taught to our children and probably will forever be. I'm not saying that this particular war isn't happening but it is extremely odd for our country to experience the economical hardship we have endured as the most powerful nation of people on the planet. To address the leaks and the death poll of the Iraqi people could it be that we are engaged unknowingly and unwillingly in "legalized genocide"? Movies are made all the time at how powerful political figures and extremely wealthy people falsify documents to cover the truth of what's really going on behind closed doors. And, it is so unfortunate because we do have a large scale of people who can't see beyond what they are told and they are cold hard patriots of this nation. We could hope, cheer, dance, sing, hold rallies, write letters, call state senates, but the truth is that none of this is going to be exposed in it's entire truthicity is revealed by our coming messiya.

My name is Valarie Jacobs also known as Valavender.