THE BEGINNING OF MAN

[Bri'on]

I am not a man of the cloth, I consider myself spiritual. Here is a question for the clergy of any faith, Can you explain the link between the following passages of GENESIS(KJV)?

 

 

GENESIS

1:27. So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

2:7. And the Lord God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8. And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

2:18. And the Lord God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 19. And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them] unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was] the name thereof. 20. And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 21. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22. And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23. And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

[Bri'on]

@Marcus:I will respond to answers 2,4-6.

2. I get the oppression scenario in America, yet, this teaching appears to be global. If I ask anyone of just about any religion of any denomination, the answer appears to be the same. If that is the case then it is a global oppression. 

 

4. BREATHLINE, that's heavy, I'm going to have to meditate on that one for a minute. I say bloodline b/c the bible says Jesus' bloodline is through Adam and Eve, which claim to be the "chosen people."

 

5. Genesis 2:4 These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens." According to verse 1:27-28, male and female were already created and it appears generations passed before Adam and Eve were formed (GENESIS 2:7 for Adam and 2:22 for Eve), that being said could Adam and Eve be the link between the of the Cro-Magnon to the Neanderthal. If GOD created different types of fish and fowl, couldn't GOD do the same with humans? Scientist claim there is a broken link to the modern man, we know when Cain left the Lord's presence, he left alone, then knew a wife and had offspring. Could his offspring be the beginning of modern man? 

 

6. Just wondering on that one, you are correct there is no way to question GOD's vision.

[Marcus Van Williamson]

Brother Bri'on,

Our race has been oppressed on nearly every continent.  But the western hemisphere has taken chief reign in the wielding of oppression - from the southern tip of south america to canada.  Though there are places that treat us better than others, we are less likely to have much anywhere in the world. I will send you some info on this later.  My son has a baseball game tonight so we have to run.

 

[LibyaWest]

Whoa nellie!!!! What seemed to me a relatively simple question at first is growing by leaps and bounds.  Can we all agree that the "stories" (use your own term) in the KJV Bible (or any other version) preceded the bible itself, in its physical form?

[Cerrita Mathis]

Hello Mr. Bri'on, first I see that you are a very clever,smart and intelligent man who knows what he wants, how to get what he wants and when to pursue it, agreed timing is important I thought I'd let you know I was taught by my father to stay in tune with a man to get clear understanding of what he wants or is asking for.  The question that you ask is a very detailed one and I'm trying to find a way to answer it as briefly as possible so give me a day or so and I promise I will answer, thanks for your patience, wisdom and understanding(Proverbs 4:7kjv) I greatly appreciate it stay blessed and prosperous.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

Bri'on said:

Hello Ms. Cerrita,

Through your life studies, what are your thoughts?

Cerrita Mathis said:

I believe we are led to believe what we are told instead of what is written because sometimes when we and I say we because I'm including myself sometimes dont know what to believe or we are unsure of the complete information so what is told to us sounds more believable and easy to understand so we accept that until we make it our business to search it out for ourselves, now there is this cliche' that says: "Knowledge is Power" but it's only power when we apply it. I personally dont believe everything someone tells me until I investigate it myself now dont get me wrong I'm not saying that it's not true what I'm told but I will check it out for my own self assurance, there's no sense repeating something someone told you if you dont know for sure that what your repeating is true stay blessed and prosperous.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

 
Bri'on said:

Hello Ms. Cerrita,

I posted some questions at the end of my statement. The summary of my statement is:Why are we led to believe what is told to us instead of what is written?

 

Cerrita Mathis said:

Hello Mr.Bri'on I would like to expound on this for you but if you would please be more specific so I can be clearer in my answer cause I feel in my spirit that I should answer this with understanding.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

[Bri'on]

Yo Marcus check it:

Jews=those formed.

Gentiles=those created.

What you think?

Marcus Van Williamson said:

Brother Bri'on,

Our race has been oppressed on nearly every continent.  But the western hemisphere has taken chief reign in the wielding of oppression - from the southern tip of south america to canada.  Though there are places that treat us better than others, we are less likely to have much anywhere in the world. I will send you some info on this later.  My son has a baseball game tonight so we have to run.

 

[Bri'on]

Not to sure on that one, If Adam was the keeper of the garden who says he couldn't read or write then, he had to be brilliant to be the first one formed. Maybe thats why the text starts with his lineage??? 

LibyaWest said:

Whoa nellie!!!! What seemed to me a relatively simple question at first is growing by leaps and bounds.  Can we all agree that the "stories" (use your own term) in the KJV Bible (or any other version) preceded the bible itself, in its physical form?

[LibyaWest]

Let's see.....the Bible existed before Adam and he read it? Sometime during Adam's life, he wrote the Bible?  Somebody else wrote it during Adam's lifetime and he read it? Clarify....I don't know what we're working with here! At any rate, my question is not intended to be that deep.

[Bri'on]

He may have starting writing it and passed it on to his offspring to continue writing. The bible was a living, breathing document until forces decided to end it with the gospel.  

LibyaWest said:

Let's see.....the Bible existed before Adam and he read it? Sometime during Adam's life, he wrote the Bible?  Somebody else wrote it during Adam's lifetime and he read it? Clarify....I don't know what we're working with here! At any rate, my question is not intended to be that deep.

[Bri'on]

Hello Ms. Cerrita, I appreciate and thank you for your compliments, I am just trying to humble myself to learn more on my quest. I will wait for your response. You also stay blessed and prosperous. 1LUV

Cerrita Mathis said:

Hello Mr. Bri'on, first I see that you are a very clever,smart and intelligent man who knows what he wants, how to get what he wants and when to pursue it, agreed timing is important I thought I'd let you know I was taught by my father to stay in tune with a man to get clear understanding of what he wants or is asking for.  The question that you ask is a very detailed one and I'm trying to find a way to answer it as briefly as possible so give me a day or so and I promise I will answer, thanks for your patience, wisdom and understanding(Proverbs 4:7kjv) I greatly appreciate it stay blessed and prosperous.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

Bri'on said:

Hello Ms. Cerrita,

Through your life studies, what are your thoughts?

Cerrita Mathis said:

I believe we are led to believe what we are told instead of what is written because sometimes when we and I say we because I'm including myself sometimes dont know what to believe or we are unsure of the complete information so what is told to us sounds more believable and easy to understand so we accept that until we make it our business to search it out for ourselves, now there is this cliche' that says: "Knowledge is Power" but it's only power when we apply it. I personally dont believe everything someone tells me until I investigate it myself now dont get me wrong I'm not saying that it's not true what I'm told but I will check it out for my own self assurance, there's no sense repeating something someone told you if you dont know for sure that what your repeating is true stay blessed and prosperous.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

 
Bri'on said:

Hello Ms. Cerrita,

I posted some questions at the end of my statement. The summary of my statement is:Why are we led to believe what is told to us instead of what is written?

 

Cerrita Mathis said:

Hello Mr.Bri'on I would like to expound on this for you but if you would please be more specific so I can be clearer in my answer cause I feel in my spirit that I should answer this with understanding.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

[LibyaWest]

Interesting!  Where can I get some more information on that?

[Bri'on]

Here is some information on who may have sealed the bible...

Who decided what books should be in the Bible?

LibyaWest said:

Interesting!  Where can I get some more information on that?

[LibyaWest]

Who decided what books should be in the Bible?

 

Sans the final paragraph, the article contains the point I would have made eventually, to wit, the events set out in the New Testament had to be compiled from available sources and translated. New and revised editions of the "Bible" continued to appear far after the Council of Nicea codified the basic precepts of Christianity which the Orthodox church never did accept.

 

Now the final paragraph says that this was all in the scheme of things and worked out just like God planned it.  Okay, but it must be a work in progress because there are still different versions of the bible out there.