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THE BEGINNING OF MAN
I am not a man of the cloth, I consider myself spiritual. Here is a question for the clergy of any faith, Can you explain the link between the following passages of GENESIS(KJV)?
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on -
Angles are not able to disobey the Creator . Angles are obedient .
Once again these are books written by men with alternative agendas . According to study and history, mankind was much bigger and taller . So an angel which is probably so enormously huge has a male member penetrated a natural women of normal size and she survived . That is ridiculous to me .
How big is an angel compared to a woman ? I am reasoning and that does not make any sense .
The Serpent is a sign of wisdom , go back and read about Musa / Moses lifting up the serpent on a rod or staff, the sign for Medicine Caduceus, Serpent Symbols and Salvation
Andrew C. Skinner
The image of the serpent was tremendously significant in the ancient world. Societies and scriptures of the Near East simultaneously attributed two highly symbolic roles to serpents. One role connected serpents to the heavens by having them represent deity, creative powers, and healing. Kundalini in Sanskrit, literally means "coiled". In Indian yoga, a "corporeal energy" - an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force or Shakti, envisioned either as a goddess or else as a sleeping serpent coiled at the base of the spine, hence a number of English renderings of the term such as 'serpent power'. Kundalini is considered a part of the subtle body along with chakras (energy centres) and nadis (channels).
Naga means Serpent, Negus means King ....... .
Naga
means “Serpent” in the Vedic Sanskrit. The Hindu Naga Serpent Gods of India are mention in the “Upanishad Texts”, Nagini for the feminine. Indian Serpent Ruler, son of Kadru (Kedar in Hebrew means Black). In ancient India , the people with the blackest skins were respected and held to high esteem; original, first or primary. The Nagas ruled India as well as a substantial portion of Asia from Arabia to China and the South Pacific, as well as the Indian Ocean region. There are a few definitions of the Naga but the origin is the Naga serpent, or the Naga’s a race of serpent like people from Hindu and Buddhist mythology. The word Naga comes from the Sanskrit and nag is still the word for snake, especially the cobra, in most of the languages of India .
Who wrote the bible ? Were they Hebrew friendly ? What was the agenda for changing the Hebrew writings to another language and enslaving the Hebrew people ?
Niger and Niger-ia: are two countries in Africa . The words “ Niger ” means in Ibo “King (emperor)” and “Niger-ia” means “Queen (empress).”
Negger: “Golden One” in ancient Kemit. Negger is another form of the god “Geb also referred to as Seb and Keb. This god was the personification of the earth, and indeed this is what his name means earth, and thus it was said that when he laughed, it caused earthquakes. The feminine version would be the goose that laid the golden egg reference to the universe being an egg before the big bang. Also Mother Goose would be a way later version of Geb. Geb is prosperity because of the association with fatness, and pregnancy, cosmic egg and so forth, the individual glyph became used as the word for goose represented as a black goose, where black represented the fertile soil and also the people of the land, The Negger’s. It is also a termed for the King-Initiate which keeps its connection to Naga the Serpent King/ Queen. Literally translated Arnold Schwarzenegger (German) Schwarz = Black or Black-Negger.
Niger-ia is a feminine derivative of the ancient Kamite word Nga, (Naga) which means “Serpent Queen.” It is a title of the Egyptian Queen; this title was given to those who have mastered the Uraeus power. When you see an Egyptian headdress which has a snake on the top of it, you are looking a Uraeus crown. Seen in most hieroglyphs as an upright form of an spitting cobra, used as a symbol of sovereignty, royalty, deity and divine authority in ancient Kemit. Uraeus is obvious reference to the Kundalini energy.
Ngosi: blessing ( Ibo , Nigeria )
Naga-saki: A Japanese city destroyed by an atomic bomb in 1945, by the U.S. and it means “Serpent Spirit” or “Serpent Life-Force.”
Nig-gina: is the Mesopotamian word for “Justice.”
Nig-sisa: is the Mesopotamian word for “Righteousness.”
Uru-niggina-kiagga: in Babylon means the “City which Loves Truth.”
Uru-niggina-sisa: in Babylon means the “City of Truth and Justice.”
Uru-nigerim-hulgig: in Babylon , means the “City which Hates Evil.
Ngola: (Manding-Congo) = “King/Lord”
Nega Negast: An Ethiopian word which, means Serpent King of Kings.
The Kebra Negast, also called the “Book of the Glory of Kings of Ethiopia,” has been in existence for at least a thousand years, it contains the true history of the origin of the Solomonic line of kings in Ethiopia .
Negus (King) The Kebra Negast is often referred to as the Rastafarian Bible. It was handed down from generation to generation orally, in Rastafarian and West Indian culture. It contains a mix of the history and traditions of the Ethiopia Orthodox faith. It documents the descent of the Ethiopian royal lineage from King David to Emperor Haile Selassie. The Naga, Negus the Real Royal bloodline is a black / blue bloodline Negus nagas , serpents .
the word "Nigger" came from the Khemet/Egyptian term for 'GOD' and that the word is 'N-G'R' or 'NET-GER'. - Bro. Alim Bey
"NAGA" is original name for Queen. 'Niger' means King in Ibo and Niger-IA means Queen. Those countries were the lands of kings and queens - Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization
"The root word NGR existed in ancient Egyptian Sacred writings and hieroglyphs...and has divine origin and meaning." - Ernie A. Smith, M.D., Ph.D., Professor of Linguistics and Doctor of Internal Medicine
N-ger-s refers to ...The Goddess Neggur (Hathor) who is one of the oldest female deities of ancient Kemet (Egypt) who was worshiped thousands of years before Genesis and the Bible existed. - Sir E. A. Wallis Budge, (1857-1934), Egyptologist
"Nugarmatta: Term used by Africans of the Ghana Empire to call themselves" -writings of Ibn Buttata in National Geographic Magazine
"Remember to know a thing or a person's real name is to know its power. To pronounce it correctly is to free its energy. To deny your real name is to deny your power and energy." - Anonymous
"In conclusion it is time that Negroes, pan-negroes (pan-africans, melanesian negroids, indo-negroids) and blacks worldwide know that the so-called negro is of the godhead and should start believing it, having self-confidence, belief in self and in their ability." -Bro. Alim Bey
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." - Hosea 4:6
Mad Props to Sister Shaba Shabaka (RIP) author of Nigger-A Divine Origin. Wise woman, before you left, you knew what was coming down the pipes.
In the Bible JESUS IS even compared to be a serpent raised up on the stake .
Think back who wrote the Bible and who are the suppressed people of The Bible, The Torah, and the Qur'an .
I have to go to school now . Chat Latter . Peace and favor .
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Permalink Reply by Christine R. Rickett on -
When I speak of the "angels," "gods," or "sons of God," having intercourse with earthly women, it is unreasonable for you to suggest I mean they did so in that form. I Bible speaks of angels and ministers of darkness transforming themselves into ministers of light.
In addition, If you check into all the Christian doctrines, the trinitiy doctrines, there are also doctrines in that area on the diety of Christ, whether he was man or "god" while he walked the earth. Some christians believe he was a "god," and in the new testament the jews would stone him, suggesting they took it that Jesus was suggesting it. Then there are Christians who disagree, since the scriptures state that he was strip of his heavenly qualities on earth. This second group of Christians believe Phillipians 2:5-9 and Hebrew 5:7-10 among other scriptures.
I bring this point out only suggesting angels or demons abilities to transform themselves. Now to what extent is a different discussion. It is, I feel, not productive to discuss genitals, since the point is only what is reflected in the scriptures. If the scriptures state they had intercourse and mighty men, "giants" were their offspring, then I will not argue with it.
I have not read many other accounts, such as the one you described. I will say this, that regardless of whether it's my heritage or not, "PERSONALLY", I have enough respect for God the creator of all things, to not put that which is "created" above the "Creator".
Most cultures throughtout the history of mankind had "gods" that they worshipped. Some worshipped the sun, snakes, the earth, wind, trees, animals and I can go on and on.
However, the creator created all these things.
The names that you have discussed, their meaning and the power that comes with the proper use or pronounciation of names may be true. Nuwabians speak of this issue too. I will say that seeing is believing. When I see a religious group exerting power with the use of names, I will believe it. It doesn't mean I will follow, it just means I will believe it, because demons too have powers.
I would want to first understand whether the teaching embraces love and kindness towards all, before I embrace anything. I would want to see the members of their religious group being peaceful towards all men. I would want to see that type of power where there is no backbitting within and no dictatorship and pressures within to give the young virgins to old dirty men.
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Permalink Reply by Christine R. Rickett on
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I respect the issues you bring out, but I am more concerned with our issue today as a people and how we fix it. I must say though, that I have learned a bit from you and Brion, and I will look more into some of the issues as I get the time. I read some materials years ago, but there was no internet. Now it will be easier to look up information on some issues the both of you have raised. Thank you.
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Permalink Reply by Christine R. Rickett on
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Brion,
Thanks. I enjoyed your topic.
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on
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The Bible speaks of angels and ministers of darkness transforming themselves into ministers of light.
They are really People with alternative motives, people pretending to be on one side but are really for the other side. Wolves in sheep's clothing . "Fakers " They were not some winged beings in another form . It's refereeing to People pretending to be filled with Christ and were actually fill with themselves and with selfish desires .
Speaking of angels, as a matter of fact we are angels . We were at one point celestial beings until our spirits were move or placed into a womb and we became a living soul after coming through the water .
Angels are heavenly BEINGS , WHEN I say heavenly beings , I mean beings male or female of high moral and standards . Beings of renowned status .
The trinitiy doctrines, there are also doctrines in that area on the diety of Christ, whether he was man or "god" while he walked the earth.
"Is it not written I said ye are gods..... . I said ye are gods and all are the children of the most high......... ."The Creator; Supreme Intellect, The Body houses the Creator and The Creator with in governs the Body . 123 a Tri -being .
Read "God is not a man that he should lie , neither is he the son of man that he should have to repent."
My point is that the Spirit . the energy, the Flesh 123, Ruach , Pschue, and Pneuma makes a living soul
(Nephesh) .I would want to first understand whether the teaching embraces love and kindness towards all, before I embrace anything. I would want to see the members of their religious group being peaceful towards all men.
We as individuals of the human race should love regardless of " religious beliefs " Showing love and doing unto your fellow man as you would want for your self . Love, Charity and Truth
I would want to see that type of power where there is no backbitting within and no dictatorship and pressures within to give the young virgins to old dirty men.
All can see on this is that Mariam was much much younger than Joesph , Sarah was a good bit younger than Abraham, as was Hajar /Hagar . I just wandering were did the above statement come from about giving the young virgins to old dirty men ?
Christine R. Rickett said:When I speak of the "angels," "gods," or "sons of God," having intercourse with earthly women, it is unreasonable for you to suggest I mean they did so in that form. I Bible speaks of angels and ministers of darkness transforming themselves into ministers of light.
In addition, If you check into all the Christian doctrines, the trinitiy doctrines, there are also doctrines in that area on the diety of Christ, whether he was man or "god" while he walked the earth. Some christians believe he was a "god," and in the new testament the jews would stone him, suggesting they took it that Jesus was suggesting it. Then there are Christians who disagree, since the scriptures state that he was strip of his heavenly qualities on earth. This second group of Christians believe Phillipians 2:5-9 and Hebrew 5:7-10 among other scriptures.
I bring this point out only suggesting angels or demons abilities to transform themselves. Now to what extent is a different discussion. It is, I feel, not productive to discuss genitals, since the point is only what is reflected in the scriptures. If the scriptures state they had intercourse and mighty men, "giants" were their offspring, then I will not argue with it.
I have not read many other accounts, such as the one you described. I will say this, that regardless of whether it's my heritage or not, "PERSONALLY", I have enough respect for God the creator of all things, to not put that which is "created" above the "Creator".
Most cultures throughtout the history of mankind had "gods" that they worshipped. Some worshipped the sun, snakes, the earth, wind, trees, animals and I can go on and on.
However, the creator created all these things.
The names that you have discussed, their meaning and the power that comes with the proper use or pronounciation of names may be true. Nuwabians speak of this issue too. I will say that seeing is believing. When I see a religious group exerting power with the use of names, I will believe it. It doesn't mean I will follow, it just means I will believe it, because demons too have powers.
I would want to first understand whether the teaching embraces love and kindness towards all, before I embrace anything. I would want to see the members of their religious group being peaceful towards all men. I would want to see that type of power where there is no backbitting within and no dictatorship and pressures within to give the young virgins to old dirty men.
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on
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I am not saying angels don't exist, what Iam saying they ARE not what we think they are .
Ka'aba, Merkaba, Kabbalah, Akwaba, Ekabo Shemhamphorasch
As I stated before ,we are the Angels .
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on
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Demons are nothing but opposing personalities of that which is good . This is only in a biblical sense . The word Demon actually comes from the Greek word "daimon" which means "intelligent."
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on
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The Creator is the Supreme Intellect, The Body houses the Creator and The Creator within governs the Body, and this the character or personality of a living soul . 123 a Tri -being . mind, soul, and body
Read "God is not a man that he should lie , neither is he the son of man that he should have to repent."
Some of us on the planet are not what we appear to be. Some are drones , clones, that are programed by outer influence rather than the Supreme intellect within . Those that are operating in the dimension far beyond what the natural eye can see, are the ones that are rightfully in the Image of The Supreme Intellect . "GOD " is a spirit and to know this spirit , one must know thy self and upon knowing , one must begin to operate in that which he / she knows . If you know that ye are gods/ elohims as is written created in the image of The Supreme intelligence, The Elohim, THE ALEPH LAM HEH, ALH, Allah , Allaha , Eloha, El , then one must operate in this knowing .
Demons are nothing but opposing personalities of that which is good . This is only in a biblical sense . The word Demon actually comes from the Greek word "daimon" which means "intelligent."
Iam not saying that demons or evil beings don't exist , what I am saying is that they are so intelligent , that they have hoodwinked the masses .
There are some that are wise / crafty and intelligent beings in the earth that oppose that which is good and deeming it bad or evil . These beings are so subtle and crafty they have convinced the masses that the masses / certain are beneath them in all .
The best thing we can do for the youth today is teach them their true history and knowledge of the past and to teach them who were and are the true elite , Kings and Presidents of the Earth.
Everything that appears on or in this realm or dimension of existence is the exact opposite in or on another realm or dimension of existence .
JC Gamble said:
The Bible speaks of angels and ministers of darkness transforming themselves into ministers of light.
They are really People with alternative motives, people pretending to be on one side but are really for the other side. Wolves in sheep's clothing . "Fakers " They were not some winged beings in another form . It's refereeing to People pretending to be filled with Christ and were actually fill with themselves and with selfish desires .
Speaking of angels, as a matter of fact we are angels . We were at one point celestial beings until our spirits were move or placed into a womb and we became a living soul after coming through the water .
Angels are heavenly BEINGS , WHEN I say heavenly beings , I mean beings male or female of high moral and standards . Beings of renowned status .
The trinitiy doctrines, there are also doctrines in that area on the diety of Christ, whether he was man or "god" while he walked the earth.
"Is it not written I said ye are gods..... . I said ye are gods and all are the children of the most high......... ."The Creator; Supreme Intellect, The Body houses the Creator and The Creator with in governs the Body . 123 a Tri -being .
Read "God is not a man that he should lie , neither is he the son of man that he should have to repent."
My point is that the Spirit . the energy, the Flesh 123, Ruach , Pschue, and Pneuma makes a living soul
(Nephesh) .I would want to first understand whether the teaching embraces love and kindness towards all, before I embrace anything. I would want to see the members of their religious group being peaceful towards all men.
We as individuals of the human race should love regardless of " religious beliefs " Showing love and doing unto your fellow man as you would want for your self . Love, Charity and Truth
I would want to see that type of power where there is no backbitting within and no dictatorship and pressures within to give the young virgins to old dirty men.
All can say on this is that Mariam was much much younger than Joesph , Sarah was a good bit younger than Abraham, as was Hajar /Hagar . I just wandering were did the above statement come from about giving the young virgins to old dirty men ?
Christine R. Rickett said:When I speak of the "angels," "gods," or "sons of God," having intercourse with earthly women, it is unreasonable for you to suggest I mean they did so in that form. I Bible speaks of angels and ministers of darkness transforming themselves into ministers of light.
In addition, If you check into all the Christian doctrines, the trinitiy doctrines, there are also doctrines in that area on the diety of Christ, whether he was man or "god" while he walked the earth. Some christians believe he was a "god," and in the new testament the jews would stone him, suggesting they took it that Jesus was suggesting it. Then there are Christians who disagree, since the scriptures state that he was strip of his heavenly qualities on earth. This second group of Christians believe Phillipians 2:5-9 and Hebrew 5:7-10 among other scriptures.
I bring this point out only suggesting angels or demons abilities to transform themselves. Now to what extent is a different discussion. It is, I feel, not productive to discuss genitals, since the point is only what is reflected in the scriptures. If the scriptures state they had intercourse and mighty men, "giants" were their offspring, then I will not argue with it.
I have not read many other accounts, such as the one you described. I will say this, that regardless of whether it's my heritage or not, "PERSONALLY", I have enough respect for God the creator of all things, to not put that which is "created" above the "Creator".
Most cultures throughtout the history of mankind had "gods" that they worshipped. Some worshipped the sun, snakes, the earth, wind, trees, animals and I can go on and on.
However, the creator created all these things.
The names that you have discussed, their meaning and the power that comes with the proper use or pronounciation of names may be true. Nuwabians speak of this issue too. I will say that seeing is believing. When I see a religious group exerting power with the use of names, I will believe it. It doesn't mean I will follow, it just means I will believe it, because demons too have powers.
I would want to first understand whether the teaching embraces love and kindness towards all, before I embrace anything. I would want to see the members of their religious group being peaceful towards all men. I would want to see that type of power where there is no backbitting within and no dictatorship and pressures within to give the young virgins to old dirty men.
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Permalink Reply by JC Gamble on
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That which once was shall be as it was in the beginning . The best thing we can do for the youth today is teach them their true history and knowledge of the past and to teach them who were and are the true elite , Kings and Presidents of the Earth.
In order for this to be again they ; the black or indigenous youth must be taught the true history of their fore-parents, be the producers of that which is good and be beneficent in the earth . They must know they who are, and where they come from . They must know that in their bloodline is the blood of royalty . They must know they are the true elite , Kings and Presidents of the Earth .
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Hello JC,
"2:7 The second creation story is a story being retold in deeper detail . The Perfected being was created , fashioned and formed then clothed in flesh , THEN was placed in a position where there was no lack . " It is not good for man to be alone I will give man a helpmate . " So all that was created had an opposite in order to re-procreate except the mankind from earth . So what Adam desired was within Adam and not out side of ADAM . According to what is written . So what Adam desire had to be birth or brought out from Adam through desire ."
I'm not sure of the second creation to pro-create b/c when Cain was caste in the world this is what he said:
8 ¶ And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him. Mt. 23.35 · Lk. 11.51 · 1 Jn. 3.12 9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? 10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground. 11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. 12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. 13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear. 14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. 16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
If Adam and Eve are the center of creation or pro-creation...who would dare to kill the first born of Adam and Eve? Why must Cain need a hedge?
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Permalink Reply by Bri'on on
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Maimonides, in his Yad ha-Chazakah: Yesodei ha-Torah, counts ten ranks of angels in the Jewish angelic hierarchy, beginning from the highest:
Rank Angel Notes 1 Chayot Ha Kodesh 2 Ophanim 3 Erelim See Isaiah 33:7 4 Hashmallim See Ezekiel 1:4 5 Seraphim See Isaiah 6 6 Malakhim Messengers, angels 7 Elohim "Godly beings" 8 Bene Elohim "Sons of Godly beings" 9 Cherubim See Talmud Hagigah 13b 10 Ishim "manlike beings", see Daniel (10:5)
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According to the Kabbalah as described by the Golden Dawn there are ten archangels, each commanding one of the choir of angels and corresponding to one of the Sephirot. It is similar to the Jewish angelic hierarchy.
Rank Choir of Angels Translation Archangel Sephirah 1 Hayot Ha Kodesh Holy Living Ones Metatron Keter 2 Ophanim Wheels Raziel Chokmah 3 Erelim Thrones Tzaphkiel Binah 4 Hashmallim Electric Ones Tzadkiel Chesed 5 Seraphim Burning Ones Khamael Gevurah 6 Malakhim Messengers, angels Raphael Tipheret 7 Elohim Godly Beings Haniel Netzach 8 Bene Elohim Sons of Elohim Michael Hod 9 Cherubim Strong Ones Gabriel Yesod 10 Ishim Persons Sandalphon Malkuth
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