Republicans have succeeded in changing the narrative, Nationally!

[Howard R. Lee]

It's been distraction after distraction, Republicans ran on a jobs agenda. Remember John Boehner asking, Mr. President where are the jobs? Well, Republicans have controlled the house since January. Is anyone aware of any jobs legislation they have tried to get passed? No, it has largely been abortion rights isuues and union stripping legislation on the state levels. Then right at the time the President addresses the birth certificate issue they start with the talk about the deficit. The Republicans in congress now have worked against this President every step of the way, yet because they are unified in their message they are able to change the narrative. This is something I don't recall seeing before in my lifetime. None of these people that claim to be a deficit hawk were saying one word when George Bush was spending like a drunken sailor on the empty investment in Iraq. All this talk about the deficit is the same distraction the birth certificate was. It is the Republican's attempt to undermine our President I tell you nothing more. They raised the debt ceiling 7 times when Bush was President and Bush did nothing for the country but drive us into a ditch.This is why this is so deeply troubling because Obama wants to help the country and they don't want him to succeed they are throwing us all under the bus so that they can regain power on the false premise that this Prsident wouldn't do what was best for the country. This is how deeply troubling this is, I hope you are paying attention!

[Avid Follower]

If they put as much energy into the jobs crisis--one main problem solved to ease the deficit.  We would have payroll tax deductions for federal, state and local governments plus extra added monies deducted for social security and medicare to fill the coffers.  More people will purchase and consume more products and services.  Instead, the unemployment crisis is ignored and they look for ways to survive without a working class.  Whatever happened to "I will be a multi-tasking president.  This is what we need"?  Instead, jobs are being dismantled in large quantities daily since 2001 framing America in austerity measures because the perfect "opportunity" is here to do so.

[Obama drama]

You're right in so many ways. Obama campaigned to get elected on getting more jobs by making the rich pay a fair share and lowering the tax burden on the middle class as an engine to energize and stimulate the economy. He also talked about a living wage. Obama was the man with the right plan! He spoke the words of every liberal and progressive! He intoxicated our senses with his adept comprehension of righteousness! He was a man covered in glory! It was as though he was a special vessel prepared by God, just for this moment! Praise God for sending us a Messiah! Black Moses! Obama will part these troubling waters and set the captives free! We're getting to go to the Promised Land that America has always promised!

Obama gets elected and blows the opportunity to get rid of the Bush Tax Cuts on the rich and leave them for everyone else. We all expected him to do that from jump! Lost the super majority and Bush Tax Cuts ride! BLEW OUR MINDS!!! So much for Messiah and Black Moses! Promised Land deferred! Didn't get rid of the Bush Tax Cuts 12/2010! WOW! Our problem is how to lead Obama through the troubled waters! Our Messiah needs a Messiah to lead him! Didn't cross our minds that he had already become a ho for the NWO! We just thought it was all about the health of the banks getting the relief they needed to start lending in order to get the economy up! But they refused to lend because the demand wasn't there! The public deep in debt and jobs gone! Obama got a Stimulus Package of some 800 billion. Way short of what he needed!

Obama just indiscriminately gave the Stimulus Package away to the states with no real timelines and specifications on spending. Gave cash away for clunkers and old refrigerators aimlessly. Put out weak job incentives because he didn't get the tax revenues afforded him by getting rid of tax cuts for the rich and a much larger Stimulus Package, knowing the magnitude of the damage done and stimulus really needed to compensate for  many years of collecting too little taxes! Thought he'd get another bit at the apple but didn't! Republicans made him go stand in the corner.

We can continue to blame Republicans because we see they are clearly stonewalling the economic recovery to take advantage of Obama's blockhead, dumbazz decisions! That's what gave the opportunity to Republicans to do what they are doing! They must have scared the crap out of Obama! How else can you explain a guy with his credentials, suddenly turning into their beeuch, selling us out like a prize ho, and not even acknowledging the damage done to blacks getting thrown into prison by the droves because there are no jobs!

The real problem is not the Republicans but the blown opportunities by Obama to fix the economy by first getting enough ongoing tax revenues and a bigger stimulus package in the first place! Obama can blame not fixing the present economic conditions on Republican stonewalling which is not totally fair because it all adds up to a culmination of opportunities Obama blew, plus what stonewalling Republicans presently do! That is the right arithmetic that puts it into proper perspective!

Republicans are out to destroy Obama, as they said they would, because of Obamacare. Nobody should be happy with Obamacare, but that's what a slackazz like Obama will do for you. Just gave Republicans all the aminition they wanted to portray Obama as a leader that doesn't know what he's doing! Who wants to be forced to pay for insurance, not knowing what the rates are going to be, and not knowing if the rate of increase is going to be regulated?!

Couldn't have given Republicans better aminition! So, they started holding the economy hostage on the basis of uncertainty over Obama's policies! Despite the fact that it's Obama's slackazz policies that has their coffers fat! It's a false platform to base their argument on but it's all they got since their coffers are fat and there is no other logical reason the economy should not be hiring like mad! They got the public, in general, to buy Obama's incompetence because both parties are pissed off over Obamacare!

You'd think a braver President would do what he did to push Obamacare through! Just use the Reconciliation Process to deal with the budget, debt ceiling, national debt, and raise taxes on the rich and big business to do it! Or go directly to the American people for a vote since Republicans are criminally holding up the economy by not allowing enough tax revenues! Use his popularity ratings to his advantage! Instead, he's giving up healthcare benefits and Social Security like a ho! Obama is the real problem! He needs to crap or get off the pot!

Nobody should believe Obama has no other options in this crisis! He ought to be able to establish Executive Order or call a vote to give the President more power to deal with the economy, even if it means a change in the Constitution! There's no way this is not a crime by both political parties! It's a crime for Republicans to block and for Democrats not to bring to bear new measures to deal with such a situation! We need a Gridlock Buster Amendment to the Constitution! There should be no such circumstances as these, allowed to exist this long, especially in an economic crisis! There's no way the American people should have to suffer this long while a bushel of boobs bullsheit over economic policy! Obama needs to buck up or get booted!

Avid Follower said:

If they put as much energy into the jobs crisis--one main problem solved to ease the deficit.  We would have payroll tax deductions for federal, state and local governments plus extra added monies deducted for social security and medicare to fill the coffers.  More people will purchase and consume more products and services.  Instead, the unemployment crisis is ignored and they look for ways to survive without a working class.  Whatever happened to "I will be a multi-tasking president.  This is what we need"?  Instead, jobs are being dismantled in large quantities daily since 2001 framing America in austerity measures because the perfect "opportunity" is here to do so.

[Avid Follower]

So right, my friend.  And the media calls him No Drama Obama.

 

 

Obama drama said:

You're right in so many ways. Obama campaigned to get elected on getting more jobs by making the rich pay a fair share and lowering the tax burden on the middle class as an engine to energize and stimulate the economy. He also talked about a living wage. Obama was the man with the right plan! He spoke the words of every liberal and progressive! He intoxicated our senses with his adept comprehension of righteousness! He was a man covered in glory! It was as though he was a special vessel prepared by God, just for this moment! Praise God for sending us a Messiah! Black Moses! Obama will part these troubling waters and set the captives free! We're getting to go to the Promised Land that America has always promised!

Obama gets elected and blows the opportunity to get rid of the Bush Tax Cuts on the rich and leave them for everyone else. We all expected him to do that from jump! Lost the super majority and Bush Tax Cuts ride! BLEW OUR MINDS!!! So much for Messiah and Black Moses! Promised Land deferred! Didn't get rid of the Bush Tax Cuts 12/2010! WOW! Our problem is how to lead Obama through the troubled waters! Our Messiah needs a Messiah to lead him! Didn't cross our minds that he had already become a ho for the NWO! We just thought it was all about the health of the banks getting the relief they needed to start lending in order to get the economy up! But they refused to lend because the demand wasn't there! The public deep in debt and jobs gone! Obama got a Stimulus Package of some 800 billion. Way short of what he needed!

Obama just indiscriminately gave the Stimulus Package away to the states with no real timelines and specifications on spending. Gave cash away for clunkers and old refrigerators aimlessly. Put out weak job incentives because he didn't get the tax revenues afforded him by getting rid of tax cuts for the rich and a much larger Stimulus Package, knowing the magnitude of the damage done and stimulus really needed to compensate for  many years of collecting too little taxes! Thought he'd get another bit at the apple but didn't! Republicans made him go stand in the corner.

We can continue to blame Republicans because we see they are clearly stonewalling the economic recovery to take advantage of Obama's blockhead, dumbazz decisions! That's what gave the opportunity to Republicans to do what they are doing! They must have scared the crap out of Obama! How else can you explain a guy with his credentials, suddenly turning into their beeuch, selling us out like a prize ho, and not even acknowledging the damage done to blacks getting thrown into prison by the droves because there are no jobs!

The real problem is not the Republicans but the blown opportunities by Obama to fix the economy by first getting enough ongoing tax revenues and a bigger stimulus package in the first place! Obama can blame not fixing the present economic conditions on Republican stonewalling which is not totally fair because it all adds up to a culmination of opportunities Obama blew, plus what stonewalling Republicans presently do! That is the right arithmetic that puts it into proper perspective!

Republicans are out to destroy Obama, as they said they would, because of Obamacare. Nobody should be happy with Obamacare, but that's what a slackazz like Obama will do for you. Just gave Republicans all the aminition they wanted to portray Obama as a leader that doesn't know what he's doing! Who wants to be forced to pay for insurance, not knowing what the rates are going to be, and not knowing if the rate of increase is going to be regulated?!

Couldn't have given Republicans better aminition! So, they started holding the economy hostage on the basis of uncertainty over Obama's policies! Despite the fact that it's Obama's slackazz policies that has their coffers fat! It's a false platform to base their argument on but it's all they got since their coffers are fat and there is no other logical reason the economy should not be hiring like mad! They got the public, in general, to buy Obama's incompetence because both parties are pissed off over Obamacare!

You'd think a braver President would do what he did to push Obamacare through! Just use the Reconciliation Process to deal with the budget, debt ceiling, national debt, and raise taxes on the rich and big business to do it! Or go directly to the American people for a vote since Republicans are criminally holding up the economy by not allowing enough tax revenues! Use his popularity ratings to his advantage! Instead, he's giving up healthcare benefits and Social Security like a ho! Obama is the real problem! He needs to crap or get off the pot!

Nobody should believe Obama has no other options in this crisis! He ought to be able to establish Executive Order or call a vote to give the President more power to deal with the economy, even if it means a change in the Constitution! There's no way this is not a crime by both political parties! It's a crime for Republicans to block and for Democrats not to bring to bear new measures to deal with such a situation! We need a Gridlock Buster Amendment to the Constitution! There should be no such circumstances as these, allowed to exist this long, especially in an economic crisis! There's no way the American people should have to suffer this long while a bushel of boobs bullsheit over economic policy! Obama needs to buck up or get booted!

Avid Follower said:

If they put as much energy into the jobs crisis--one main problem solved to ease the deficit.  We would have payroll tax deductions for federal, state and local governments plus extra added monies deducted for social security and medicare to fill the coffers.  More people will purchase and consume more products and services.  Instead, the unemployment crisis is ignored and they look for ways to survive without a working class.  Whatever happened to "I will be a multi-tasking president.  This is what we need"?  Instead, jobs are being dismantled in large quantities daily since 2001 framing America in austerity measures because the perfect "opportunity" is here to do so.

[Avid Follower]

Obama Drama, when you say "Obamacare", are u a conservative???

[Obama drama]

Nope. I'm an Independent signed up as a Democrat who does not like the idea that Obama blew getting the Public Option. That's a compromise if we're not going single payer. I think conservatives are right to call it Obamacare. I don't even know the real name of it because I phased out once he blew it. It's not something Liberals wanted. I agree with Liberals more than anyone. They have the right idea on how to run capitalism. That's where I'm a total Liberal! Republicans would be happy to call me a socialist. I'm hardly that!

I do believe some things like healthcare would be better socialized and letting taxes pay for it. The government has to decide how much doctors and hospitals get paid for healthcare or it will continue to be a problem. We don't need to cut Medicare and Social Security but control cost that are exploiting the tax payer for these services! Cost are so astronomically high because of profiteers like insurance companies, hospital administrators, and medical associations being repugnantly greedy! Getting rid of Insurance companies would significantly lower healthcare costs!

If the economy were run right, we'd tax the rich much more and have surpluses. Not running up deficits and then fighting on what to do about it. We'd already have the money to implement work projects like improve infrastructure, wind, solar, high speed rail, give job incentives, and create training programs to keep people working.

If the rich want lower taxes they should have to earn them by hiring Americans and stop investing everything overseas for profits and moving offshore. They should have an obligation to the American workers or they should pay higher taxes and higher fees to bring products made overseas into our markets. That way, the government will have the funds to make up the slack with work projects and job training. There's no way every able-bodied American should not have at least a living wage job! Free Trade Agreements favor no one but the rich!

There should be a Zero Unemployment Amendment! There is no way we can't run the economy in the manner I've described. No way greedy bastards should decide how many, and what quality of jobs Americans get! To me, that should be determined by the government! That's how I interpret the PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE obligation of the government!

We need to get the American people on that same page and stop letting the rich jerk us around for their profits. Sometimes we're working and sometimes we're not! That's why marriages break up, taxes go up to pay for more prisons, lives destroyed by prison records, etc. Capitalism should serve the people and not the reverse! Socialism is used to make profits for capitalism and therefore, capitalism should have an obligation to socialism in the form of taking care of the basic needs of all Americans! It needs to give as good as it gets!

We've got 90% of the wealth and means of production in the hands of 10% of the people and they want to pay less than their present 36% tax rate and do with loopholes! They want less than that! It's insane to let them get away with it! They are making a mockery of the political process and administration of government, and corrupting it by buying politicians, constantly having us teetering on the brink of destruction!

Americans are going to have to get out in the streets of every town and village and protest to take back the government and end the corruption of campaign contributions and unbalanced, corrupt taxation forced on us by a system, owned and controlled by the rich! We need to fight to regain true democracy because we presently live in hypocrisy! DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA IS A BIG FAT LIE! FREEDOM IS NOTHING BUT AN IDEAL AFFORDED ONLY TO THE RICH!

We need to stop congressmen receiving campaign contributions and pay for campaigns with taxes! Stop letting them leave and go to work for big business. There should be a 5 year restriction on that! Don't allow congressmen to take any bribes from the rich and big business or anyone at all! I got to believe congressmen are bribed with job offers once they leave off. It's bad enough they vote the way they do because they're leaving a door open to get hired by big business if they lose their reelection. They know they can't get hired if they voted against the interest of big business! A 5 year wait before they can take a big business job will stop some of that! Stop lobbyist period! No revolving door, period! Smash corruption wherever you find it!

So no, I'm not a conservative. Not if it means unfair taxation on big business and leaving America holding the bag. At the same time, no way in the world I want to destroy capitalism. Everyone should have a real chance to get rich.

 

Avid Follower said:

Obama Drama, when you say "Obamacare", are u a conservative???

[Avid Follower]

Too much corruption. Is there anybody they could put in there and be bribed with a lot of unbelievable cash who could stick to their professed morals for the good of the country and not themselves? Question kind of redundant, I know, but the main thrust of choosing a real victor FOR the majority of poor, working and middle class americans.

Obama drama said:

Nope. I'm an Independent signed up as a Democrat who does not like the idea that Obama blew getting the Public Option. That's a compromise if we're not going single payer. I think conservatives are right to call it Obamacare. I don't even know the real name of it because I phased out once he blew it. It's not something Liberals wanted. I agree with Liberals more than anyone. They have the right idea on how to run capitalism. That's where I'm a total Liberal! Republicans would be happy to call me a socialist. I'm hardly that!

I do believe some things like healthcare would be better socialized and letting taxes pay for it. The government has to decide how much doctors and hospitals get paid for healthcare or it will continue to be a problem. We don't need to cut Medicare and Social Security but control cost that are exploiting the tax payer for these services! Cost are so astronomically high because of profiteers like insurance companies, hospital administrators, and medical associations being repugnantly greedy! Getting rid of Insurance companies would significantly lower healthcare costs!

If the economy were run right, we'd tax the rich much more and have surpluses. Not running up deficits and then fighting on what to do about it. We'd already have the money to implement work projects like improve infrastructure, wind, solar, high speed rail, give job incentives, and create training programs to keep people working.

If the rich want lower taxes they should have to earn them by hiring Americans and stop investing everything overseas for profits and moving offshore. They should have an obligation to the American workers or they should pay higher taxes and higher fees to bring products made overseas into our markets. That way, the government will have the funds to make up the slack with work projects and job training. There's no way every able-bodied American should not have at least a living wage job! Free Trade Agreements favor no one but the rich!

There should be a Zero Unemployment Amendment! There is no way we can't run the economy in the manner I've described. No way greedy bastards should decide how many, and what quality of jobs Americans get! To me, that should be determined by the government! That's how I interpret the PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE obligation of the government!

We need to get the American people on that same page and stop letting the rich jerk us around for their profits. Sometimes we're working and sometimes we're not! That's why marriages break up, taxes go up to pay for more prisons, lives destroyed by prison records, etc. Capitalism should serve the people and not the reverse! Socialism is used to make profits for capitalism and therefore, capitalism should have an obligation to socialism in the form of taking care of the basic needs of all Americans! It needs to give as good as it gets!

We've got 90% of the wealth and means of production in the hands of 10% of the people and they want to pay less than their present 36% tax rate and do with loopholes! They want less than that! It's insane to let them get away with it! They are making a mockery of the political process and administration of government, and corrupting it by buying politicians, constantly having us teetering on the brink of destruction!

Americans are going to have to get out in the streets of every town and village and protest to take back the government and end the corruption of campaign contributions and unbalanced, corrupt taxation forced on us by a system, owned and controlled by the rich! We need to fight to regain true democracy because we presently live in hypocrisy! DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA IS A BIG FAT LIE! FREEDOM IS NOTHING BUT AN IDEAL AFFORDED ONLY TO THE RICH!

We need to stop congressmen receiving campaign contributions and pay for campaigns with taxes! Stop letting them leave and go to work for big business. There should be a 5 year restriction on that! Don't allow congressmen to take any bribes from the rich and big business or anyone at all! I got to believe congressmen are bribed with job offers once they leave off. It's bad enough they vote the way they do because they're leaving a door open to get hired by big business if they lose their reelection. They know they can't get hired if they voted against the interest of big business! A 5 year wait before they can take a big business job will stop some of that! Stop lobbyist period! No revolving door, period! Smash corruption wherever you find it!

So no, I'm not a conservative. Not if it means unfair taxation on big business and leaving America holding the bag. At the same time, no way in the world I want to destroy capitalism. Everyone should have a real chance to get rich.

 

Avid Follower said:

Obama Drama, when you say "Obamacare", are u a conservative???

[Ms Kerry]

 

 

Just love the way the black child and chinese child looks at him!  New next now generation!  :)

[Obama drama]

That question has been posed to me many times. Obama appears to be above the fray as far as verbal commitment. Where he fails is physical action. His words have no power! He does not walk his talk! That puppy will have it's legs draw up from atrophy! Take them words for a stroll Obama. Why don't ya?! That's what I'm saying.

I clearly understand Obama has been backed into a corner and caged like he just got off the slave ship, but that is because he refused to walk his talk. He made promises he could have backed up when he had the super majority! Remember Pelosi and Reed trying to get him to do it all within his first 100 days?!

Obama is trying to serve two masters. He's playing the money more than playing fairness for the people. What good is a prize hunting dog if he no longer hunts and has had his balls cut off?! All he does is bark! He's got teeth but when the burglars break in on you, he won't bite! That's what Obama is! If you could miniaturize him, he'd be a good ornament to place on the mantle or hang on the Christmas tree, but what good is he to us?! We know what he says he stands for, so why didn't and doesn't he?!

I admire your loyalty to Obama but you'd have more value to all America if you'd light a fire under his feet, jump on his back and go for a ride like I do! You need to chose loyalty to Obama or to the people. What good is a loyalty that bears no fruit? Is it not because you wait to pick fruit from a tree that is impotent?

What are we gaining from the debt ceiling talks? Are we not in reverse on social services and programs that benefit the poor every since Obama has been in office? He's not getting more tax revenues to put more people to work or training programs! Blacks are suffering the worse than under Bush! Judge Obama by what he does, and not by what he says.

We can look for a true Liberal instead of these Clinton/Obama middle of the road types. I like Pelosi or Reed. We should run Smiley or West and let them make a decision on who gets our votes if they don't win.

I'm sorry but I'm not for Obama unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat and gets it right for all Americans! Obama has to bring home the bacon before I check his box for another term. If people like you think Obama is worth it, you should be running a nationwide protest to get more tax revenue from the rich in every city, or starting an economic organization that harness the buying power of America to put America to work, and promote buy American to take the money away from those that are sending our jobs overseas!

What scares me is that people will give Obama another term when there is nothing to suggest he will run a more effective economy than he is now! Why doesn't he invoke Executive Power since this is a crisis and take charge of it?! I see no strength of action in Obama! Just more talk, no walk!

Avid Follower said:

Too much corruption. Is there anybody they could put in there and be bribed with a lot of unbelievable cash who could stick to their professed morals for the good of the country and not themselves? Question kind of redundant, I know, but the main thrust of choosing a real victor FOR the majority of poor, working and middle class americans.

Obama drama said:

Nope. I'm an Independent signed up as a Democrat who does not like the idea that Obama blew getting the Public Option. That's a compromise if we're not going single payer. I think conservatives are right to call it Obamacare. I don't even know the real name of it because I phased out once he blew it. It's not something Liberals wanted. I agree with Liberals more than anyone. They have the right idea on how to run capitalism. That's where I'm a total Liberal! Republicans would be happy to call me a socialist. I'm hardly that!

I do believe some things like healthcare would be better socialized and letting taxes pay for it. The government has to decide how much doctors and hospitals get paid for healthcare or it will continue to be a problem. We don't need to cut Medicare and Social Security but control cost that are exploiting the tax payer for these services! Cost are so astronomically high because of profiteers like insurance companies, hospital administrators, and medical associations being repugnantly greedy! Getting rid of Insurance companies would significantly lower healthcare costs!

If the economy were run right, we'd tax the rich much more and have surpluses. Not running up deficits and then fighting on what to do about it. We'd already have the money to implement work projects like improve infrastructure, wind, solar, high speed rail, give job incentives, and create training programs to keep people working.

If the rich want lower taxes they should have to earn them by hiring Americans and stop investing everything overseas for profits and moving offshore. They should have an obligation to the American workers or they should pay higher taxes and higher fees to bring products made overseas into our markets. That way, the government will have the funds to make up the slack with work projects and job training. There's no way every able-bodied American should not have at least a living wage job! Free Trade Agreements favor no one but the rich!

There should be a Zero Unemployment Amendment! There is no way we can't run the economy in the manner I've described. No way greedy bastards should decide how many, and what quality of jobs Americans get! To me, that should be determined by the government! That's how I interpret the PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE obligation of the government!

We need to get the American people on that same page and stop letting the rich jerk us around for their profits. Sometimes we're working and sometimes we're not! That's why marriages break up, taxes go up to pay for more prisons, lives destroyed by prison records, etc. Capitalism should serve the people and not the reverse! Socialism is used to make profits for capitalism and therefore, capitalism should have an obligation to socialism in the form of taking care of the basic needs of all Americans! It needs to give as good as it gets!

We've got 90% of the wealth and means of production in the hands of 10% of the people and they want to pay less than their present 36% tax rate and do with loopholes! They want less than that! It's insane to let them get away with it! They are making a mockery of the political process and administration of government, and corrupting it by buying politicians, constantly having us teetering on the brink of destruction!

Americans are going to have to get out in the streets of every town and village and protest to take back the government and end the corruption of campaign contributions and unbalanced, corrupt taxation forced on us by a system, owned and controlled by the rich! We need to fight to regain true democracy because we presently live in hypocrisy! DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA IS A BIG FAT LIE! FREEDOM IS NOTHING BUT AN IDEAL AFFORDED ONLY TO THE RICH!

We need to stop congressmen receiving campaign contributions and pay for campaigns with taxes! Stop letting them leave and go to work for big business. There should be a 5 year restriction on that! Don't allow congressmen to take any bribes from the rich and big business or anyone at all! I got to believe congressmen are bribed with job offers once they leave off. It's bad enough they vote the way they do because they're leaving a door open to get hired by big business if they lose their reelection. They know they can't get hired if they voted against the interest of big business! A 5 year wait before they can take a big business job will stop some of that! Stop lobbyist period! No revolving door, period! Smash corruption wherever you find it!

So no, I'm not a conservative. Not if it means unfair taxation on big business and leaving America holding the bag. At the same time, no way in the world I want to destroy capitalism. Everyone should have a real chance to get rich.

 

Avid Follower said:

Obama Drama, when you say "Obamacare", are u a conservative???

[Osirian]

Obama drama said:

Nope. I'm an Independent signed up as a Democrat

 

A blithering idiot is what you actually are. Your the type of cat that would run and tell the slave master about a potential revolt simply because "you" were assigned as a look out.

 

You rabid progressives kill me. You hold absolutely no power, yet ya'll vehemently advocate for policies which maintain powerlessness. The game is much larger than your tin foil hat can withstand, and until ya'll understand that the only way to truly bring about change to the current structure, is to build your own, then ya'll will remain "advocates", and not "ascenders".

[Avid Follower]

Your'e mistaken about me.  The President lost me along with many others a long time ago. 

Obama drama said:

That question has been posed to me many times. Obama appears to be above the fray as far as verbal commitment. Where he fails is physical action. His words have no power! He does not walk his talk! That puppy will have it's legs draw up from atrophy! Take them words for a stroll Obama. Why don't ya?! That's what I'm saying.

I clearly understand Obama has been backed into a corner and caged like he just got off the slave ship, but that is because he refused to walk his talk. He made promises he could have backed up when he had the super majority! Remember Pelosi and Reed trying to get him to do it all within his first 100 days?!

Obama is trying to serve two masters. He's playing the money more than playing fairness for the people. What good is a prize hunting dog if he no longer hunts and has had his balls cut off?! All he does is bark! He's got teeth but when the burglars break in on you, he won't bite! That's what Obama is! If you could miniaturize him, he'd be a good ornament to place on the mantle or hang on the Christmas tree, but what good is he to us?! We know what he says he stands for, so why didn't and doesn't he?!

I admire your loyalty to Obama but you'd have more value to all America if you'd light a fire under his feet, jump on his back and go for a ride like I do! You need to chose loyalty to Obama or to the people. What good is a loyalty that bears no fruit? Is it not because you wait to pick fruit from a tree that is impotent?

What are we gaining from the debt ceiling talks? Are we not in reverse on social services and programs that benefit the poor every since Obama has been in office? He's not getting more tax revenues to put more people to work or training programs! Blacks are suffering the worse than under Bush! Judge Obama by what he does, and not by what he says.

We can look for a true Liberal instead of these Clinton/Obama middle of the road types. I like Pelosi or Reed. We should run Smiley or West and let them make a decision on who gets our votes if they don't win.

I'm sorry but I'm not for Obama unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat and gets it right for all Americans! Obama has to bring home the bacon before I check his box for another term. If people like you think Obama is worth it, you should be running a nationwide protest to get more tax revenue from the rich in every city, or starting an economic organization that harness the buying power of America to put America to work, and promote buy American to take the money away from those that are sending our jobs overseas!

What scares me is that people will give Obama another term when there is nothing to suggest he will run a more effective economy than he is now! Why doesn't he invoke Executive Power since this is a crisis and take charge of it?! I see no strength of action in Obama! Just more talk, no walk!

Avid Follower said:

Too much corruption. Is there anybody they could put in there and be bribed with a lot of unbelievable cash who could stick to their professed morals for the good of the country and not themselves? Question kind of redundant, I know, but the main thrust of choosing a real victor FOR the majority of poor, working and middle class americans.

Obama drama said:

Nope. I'm an Independent signed up as a Democrat who does not like the idea that Obama blew getting the Public Option. That's a compromise if we're not going single payer. I think conservatives are right to call it Obamacare. I don't even know the real name of it because I phased out once he blew it. It's not something Liberals wanted. I agree with Liberals more than anyone. They have the right idea on how to run capitalism. That's where I'm a total Liberal! Republicans would be happy to call me a socialist. I'm hardly that!

I do believe some things like healthcare would be better socialized and letting taxes pay for it. The government has to decide how much doctors and hospitals get paid for healthcare or it will continue to be a problem. We don't need to cut Medicare and Social Security but control cost that are exploiting the tax payer for these services! Cost are so astronomically high because of profiteers like insurance companies, hospital administrators, and medical associations being repugnantly greedy! Getting rid of Insurance companies would significantly lower healthcare costs!

If the economy were run right, we'd tax the rich much more and have surpluses. Not running up deficits and then fighting on what to do about it. We'd already have the money to implement work projects like improve infrastructure, wind, solar, high speed rail, give job incentives, and create training programs to keep people working.

If the rich want lower taxes they should have to earn them by hiring Americans and stop investing everything overseas for profits and moving offshore. They should have an obligation to the American workers or they should pay higher taxes and higher fees to bring products made overseas into our markets. That way, the government will have the funds to make up the slack with work projects and job training. There's no way every able-bodied American should not have at least a living wage job! Free Trade Agreements favor no one but the rich!

There should be a Zero Unemployment Amendment! There is no way we can't run the economy in the manner I've described. No way greedy bastards should decide how many, and what quality of jobs Americans get! To me, that should be determined by the government! That's how I interpret the PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE obligation of the government!

We need to get the American people on that same page and stop letting the rich jerk us around for their profits. Sometimes we're working and sometimes we're not! That's why marriages break up, taxes go up to pay for more prisons, lives destroyed by prison records, etc. Capitalism should serve the people and not the reverse! Socialism is used to make profits for capitalism and therefore, capitalism should have an obligation to socialism in the form of taking care of the basic needs of all Americans! It needs to give as good as it gets!

We've got 90% of the wealth and means of production in the hands of 10% of the people and they want to pay less than their present 36% tax rate and do with loopholes! They want less than that! It's insane to let them get away with it! They are making a mockery of the political process and administration of government, and corrupting it by buying politicians, constantly having us teetering on the brink of destruction!

Americans are going to have to get out in the streets of every town and village and protest to take back the government and end the corruption of campaign contributions and unbalanced, corrupt taxation forced on us by a system, owned and controlled by the rich! We need to fight to regain true democracy because we presently live in hypocrisy! DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA IS A BIG FAT LIE! FREEDOM IS NOTHING BUT AN IDEAL AFFORDED ONLY TO THE RICH!

We need to stop congressmen receiving campaign contributions and pay for campaigns with taxes! Stop letting them leave and go to work for big business. There should be a 5 year restriction on that! Don't allow congressmen to take any bribes from the rich and big business or anyone at all! I got to believe congressmen are bribed with job offers once they leave off. It's bad enough they vote the way they do because they're leaving a door open to get hired by big business if they lose their reelection. They know they can't get hired if they voted against the interest of big business! A 5 year wait before they can take a big business job will stop some of that! Stop lobbyist period! No revolving door, period! Smash corruption wherever you find it!

So no, I'm not a conservative. Not if it means unfair taxation on big business and leaving America holding the bag. At the same time, no way in the world I want to destroy capitalism. Everyone should have a real chance to get rich.

 

Avid Follower said:

Obama Drama, when you say "Obamacare", are u a conservative???

[Howard R. Lee]

So tell me Mr. Obama Drama,

Who is it you will vote for if you don't vote for President Obama? A vote for his opposition is at least 20 times worst if not 100 fold worst. If you refuse to vote, this is a vote for his opposition. Which in turn is exactly what the opposition wants. Who, among the choices you have do you say is a better choice than President Obama and what are your reasons for saying so? I will wait for your reply.

Obama drama said:

We can continue to blame Republicans for the mess we're still in though Republicans caused it but that won't get us to where we need to go.

Obama's inaction when he had the super majority entering the house, and poor, timid, slackass decisions as to the amount of money needed for the stimulus package to get the train back on the tracks is the real problem! This is what you get from a pragmatist!

Obama let those Bush Tax Cuts ride from jump and 12/2010 with an opportunity to get more revenue to give job incentives and provide training programs and provide aid to the states! What we have in large part is an idiot playing politics, thinking the American people will buy him continuing to push blame to the Republicans because they are taking their opportunities as you'd expect they would and told you their aim is to run Obama out of office.

Obama is only trying to exploit the evil Republican intentions in a political chess game that corners them into giving him control of the economy. Frankly, it's an idiots play on Obama's part because the people are restless and tired of waiting on him to come through. The people are suffering while Obama plays a chess game he doesn't have to play if he had gotten the money lost from letting the Bush tax cuts float over 2.5 years now. But then Obama has the fear of letting the crazed Republicans back in office going for him!

So, come 2012 we'll see if fear energize the Obama electorate or if they abandon him because of suffering and disappointment. It doesn't look like he's going to pull enough money out of these debt ceiling talks to save him. He's obviously counting on having exposed the Republican's reckless disrespect for the American people in underserving them, and threats to deprive them of more benefits while the rich get richer, to save him.

I won't say it's not an interesting battle and likely a close outcome! It's a classic battle of good and evil! The problem is that so many Americans are so dumb and racist that they put the Tea Party in Congress, let alone more devils we already knew! Now we have bigger devils to deal with! That's in Obama's favor.

What's not in Obama's favor is his decision to play a chess game where the poor suffer when they didn't have to, and they are smart enough to know it! That's part of the reason the Tea Party is in Congress! Obama wouldn't get the tax revenues from the rich, so people voted to let the Tea Party save them taxes, now and in the future by shrinking the size of government, stupid as it is to have done, but all because Obama didn't make the case of keeping government jobs to help stimulate the economy!

Maybe Obama is teaching America a lesson with real live facts on the ground by actually running the economy the Republicans are suggesting, but greatly at the expense of blacks who are hurt most! Isn't that what's happening?! Either that or he's a total sellout! I believe a little of both! The points for running a Trickle Down economy is that Republicans can't say it works without government regulations that obligates them to create jobs in America to get lower tax cuts!

At least, that's what I'd do with the obvious evidence that Trickle Down economics don't work and didn't work for Reagan, Bushes, or Obama! I'd tie lower tax rates for big business and the rich to the unemployment rate and create a full employment with a living wage at a minimum, capitalistic system! At least, tie the rich tax rates to the unemployment rate!

Obama makes great speeches and has a great voice to deliver it, but this is a dumb decision to make people suffer that don't have to! It's even dumber is he doesn't make the case against Trickle Down economics! He should have made the case instead of run Trickle Down economics! It's better to explain it because you lose supporters if you pain it with real life circumstances!

HERE'S WHY I'M NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA UNLESS HE FIXES THIS MESS QUICKLY!

1. OBAMA FAIL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SUPER MAJORITY!

2. FAIL TO ACT TO GET RID OF BUSH TAX CUTS!

3. FAIL TO FREE THOSE DEEP IN CREDIT CARD DEBT BECAUSE OF THE INFLATION THE BIG SCAMS CAUSED!

3B. FAIL TO ACT WHILE BANKS MADE CREDIT CARD HOLDERS PAY THEIR BAILOUT!

4. FAIL TO PUT CAPS ON CREDIT CARD INTEREST RATES!

5. FAIL TO CREATE JOBS WITH ENOUGH JOB INCENTIVES BECAUSE HE LET THE BUSH TAX CUTS RIDE AND DIDN'T GET A BIG ENOUGH STIMULUS PACKAGE!
 
6. MOST OF ALL, THE BIG SPEECH MAKER AND LAWYER, FAIL TO MAKE THE CASE FOR MORE STIMULUS INSTEAD OF SPENDING CUTS!

FROM MY VIEW, OBAMA'S A SLACKASS AND DON'T DESERVE ANOTHER TERM! HE'LL ONLY GET ANOTHER TERM IF PEOPLE ARE TOO AFRAID AND TOO STUPID TO KNOW HE DOESN'T HAVE BIG ENOUGH BALLS AND TOO STUPID TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS, AND THEREFORE, ANOTHER TERM IS MORE OF THE SAME!

Walk up in Washington with pragmatism, knowing full well they're about racism and capitalism, and they'll pommel your puss, wack your whoop, and send you back to shooting hoops!

You can't stroll into the halls of Washington hell without bringing big balls and not timidity to act, nor be touched with   idiocy in decisions, for chickens belong in chicken coops!

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH OBAMA'S CHESS GAME.
IF HE WINS ANOTHER TERM, STUPIDITY IS OUR NAME.

BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO ASK WHAT HE'S DONE FOR US!
HAS HE DONE NOTHING BUT THROWN US UNDER BUS!

WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE PLAN.
WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE THE MAN!

[Howard R. Lee]

You sound like a white man in a predominately black forum, wanting people to believe you are one of us. I only have one question for you and that is this, Who in your opinion is better for the nation at this time than President Obama is? Tell me! I'll await your answer, I think you are a white person in this forum to stir up resent among black folks for President Obama. So tell me Mr. Obama Drama, who in your opinion would be better for the nation than President Obama?

Obama drama said:

Barack Obama and the War on Black Reality Black Agenda Report

by Paul Street

http://blackagendareport.com/content/barack-obama-and-war-black-rea...

How explain the recent shift to undue black optimism in the face of stark material evidence that black America’s plight has been worsening in accord with the nation’s continuing refusal to acknowledge the reality of racial oppression? Without offering much in the way of evidence, the establishment black journalist Michelle Singletary of The Washington Post seems to think it’s about a combination of black religious faith and the role that black families have played in supporting each other and setting up independent black business through the recession.xxi

In their write-up on the Kaiser-Post-Harvard poll last February, Fletcher and Cohen cited unnamed “analysts who study black prosperity” who claimed that “optimism is rooted in long experience with hard times.” These anonymous experts told Fletcher and Cohen “that now many African-Americans sense attention to their struggles at the highest levels of government, something that was not evident before the recession.”xxii But blacks’ “long experience with hard times” has never created such reality-assaulting mass black counter-factual optimism prior to the Obama presidency. And the notion that the current administration is focused in any special way on black struggles is simply false.

The early and intrepid Obama critic Glen Ford has a different take, “The psychological harm done to Black people by Obama’s presidency,” Ford wrote last July, “may be even greater than the economic and political damage. Barack Obama’s presidency is driving millions of African Americans insane – stone, cold out of their minds…. There is nothing to be upbeat about – except, for Obama supporters, the election of 2008. From that point on, a large segment of Black America became disconnected from reality, numb to their own pain and to the pain of their children.” xxiii

“The notion that the current administration is focused in any special way on black struggles is simply false.”

Ford was exaggerating for effect, perhaps, to make a basic and I think key point. The astonishing (for many) symbolic significance of black family residing in the White House has proved so powerful as to encourage a significant number of black Americans to disregard basic facts of material pain and racial disparity.

Algernon Austin, director of the Race, Ethnicity and the Economy program for the liberal Economic Policy Institute, made Ford’s basic point in more tepid and diplomatic terms last February. “The fact that he [Obama] is the first black president does have a powerful impact on people's perception of their opportunities and the future," Austin told the Washington Post. “It is kind of hard to separate that from the other facts."xxiv Regardless of Obama’s service to the white corporate elite that continues to consign the black community to Third World-like poverty inside “the world’s richest nation” – actually the most unequal and wealth-top-heavy nation in the industrialized world by far (nonetheless described by candidate Obama as “a magical place” where anything is possible) – and despite his willingness to kowtow to majority white racial fears (and racism-denial), regular and symbolically powerful televised images of the first black president trump material, social, and political reality in the minds of many of contemporary American racism’s victims.

Anticipation of this terrible outcome and of a President Obama’s role in rendering that racism yet more invisible (and in giving American capitalism and imperialism a fake-progressive public relations makeover,) Ford and his fellow radical and black colleagues at Black Agenda Report were always horrified at the specter of an Obama presidency and what it would do to the prospects for an independent and progressive Black politics. The mind-blowing Obama ascendancy has pacified, blinded, deluded, distracted, and bamboozled the nation’s most historically progressive thinking, voting, and acting bloc to no small degree – a problem not just for the black community but for progressive prospects across the national board.

Going Forward

Still, Ford hastens to add that the news is not all bad. Obama’s black approval has fallen significantly since last year – from the mid 90s to its current 88 percent. The president’s fake-humanitarian military assault on the Muslim and African nation of Libya and his apparent lack of interest in the oppression of black migrant workers there has elicited significant grumbling in sections of the black political class.

A resurgence of independent black activism and movement formation will not require Obama to lose majority black support (something that Ford doubts will ever happen). A fall of his black approval into the 60s will be quite significant, Ford feels, indicating new black independence.

Much of the high black approval that Obama receives in opinion surveys naturally reflects defensive black horror at the racist threat provided by perceived Republican presidential opponents like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and the right wing white nationalists associated with “the Tea Party” and the Republican Party more broadly. Many black people never get contacted by pollsters, including the millions stuck in prison and jail, many of whom can have few illusions about “hope” and “change.”

What is required most is the resurgence of militant rank and file social movement activity in black America, beneath the personalized spectacle of national politics, and that is something that can very well expand in coming months and years even as Obama continues to receive high black approval ratings. It will have more space to develop when the all-too paralyzing Obama factor is concluded, something that could well happen in the next presidential election.