OSAMA ASSASSINATED

[Smiley and West]

After almost one million deaths and more than $1 trillion, Smiley & West ask: Was it worth it? Smiley: I am certain that the world is free of another gangsta. Free of another thug. On the other hand, I’m not sure that makes us any safer. West: Justice does not come out of the barrel of a gun. It was retaliation and revenge. Is that who we are as a people? I hope not.

[rick meiresonne]

you could also add that 300,000 children are victims of sexual abuse, our black brown and gay brothers have not yet reached their full rights, there are no job, no health insurance and no education worth a damn for children. we have 7.2 million people in prison, parole or probation, women are still considered less worthy of equal pay, opportunity and the victims of misogynistic paternalism. But we can fly to foreign countries and kill brown people very well.

[Sonya Waggoner]

ABSOLUTELY RICK!!!  DEAR GOD...ADD TO!!!

[True Father]

http://smileyandwest.ning.com/forum/topics/for-all-the-gullible-peo...

[JamieLMyer]

Just a thought--not really a smart move for Pakistan to admit to knowing about the incursion into their territory.  Location, location, location.

Jamming is always an option, but those chopper are loud, very loud.  

Not really a smart move to give out too much information. Source identification!

I believe the SEALS were brave and believed they were doing the right thing.  We really won't know until someone uses the Freedom of Information Act in about 20 years.  Even then, we really won't know.

I believe that Osama bin Laden was a threat to the people of our country and if 9/11 didn't convince you, nothing will ever convince you.

I am confused about the celebration of the killing of this man, but because he refused to see our humanity do we become him and refuse to see his? I am not sad that he is no longer alive. He was responsible for the deaths of many, many innocent people that were not U.S. citizens, also. I don't have the answer to why there is such complexity in my own emotions regarding the death of this man.  

Please listen to her story...and then ask yourself, "Where do we go from here? Her story is the story of every person who has lost a loved one at the hands of another person or other people through hatred and injustice.  Where and how do we begin (as a people) to alleviate the divisiveness and hatred amongst ourselves.  We have to start somewhere.    

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135995930/he-wanted-me-to-live-a-full...

 

 

[Orlandoblkman]

OMG JamieLMyer,

   The 9/11 terrorist event was the biggest government Black Op (Secret Black Operation)in the world.

Usama Bin Laden has said a dozen times that he did not do 9/11 although he appreciated what happened afterwards.

Because the Bush Administration never had the event investigated and the media was told what to say...We have this TERROR FREAKOUT which the NWO crime syndicates wants us to have.

  

 

JamieLMyer said:

Just a thought--not really a smart move for Pakistan to admit to knowing about the incursion into their territory.  Location, location, location.

Jamming is always an option, but those chopper are loud, very loud.  

Not really a smart move to give out too much information. Source identification!

I believe the SEALS were brave and believed they were doing the right thing.  We really won't know until someone uses the Freedom of Information Act in about 20 years.  Even then, we really won't know.

I believe that Osama bin Laden was a threat to the people of our country and if 9/11 didn't convince you, nothing will ever convince you.

I am confused about the celebration of the killing of this man, but because he refused to see our humanity do we become him and refuse to see his? I am not sad that he is no longer alive. He was responsible for the deaths of many, many innocent people that were not U.S. citizens, also. I don't have the answer to why there is such complexity in my own emotions regarding the death of this man.  

Please listen to her story...and then ask yourself, "Where do we go from here? Her story is the story of every person who has lost a loved one at the hands of another person or other people through hatred and injustice.  Where and how do we begin (as a people) to alleviate the divisiveness and hatred amongst ourselves.  We have to start somewhere.    

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/05/135995930/he-wanted-me-to-live-a-full...

 

 

[angela michelle erby]

Your absolutely right, and at this point in this day and age, crime is a lucrative business.  Who said crime does'nt pay?   It is what it is.  Yomi Ace said:

Angela,

The thrust of your submission makes sense. I just want to seize the opportunity you created to say that folks may need to re-consider and appreciate that criminals are not punished just because society, like Shylock, decides to demand its pound of flesh. Criminals are also punished to serve as deterrent to aspiring ones. And, it works.

There will be keen rebutters ready to treat us to spurious statistic showing no evidence to support the notion that punishing criminals deters would-be culprits or reduces the rate/gravity of crime. What they fail to show is how many control experiments or quasi-experiments they perform showing that societies without criminal penalties return the same rate and gravity of crime as the main experiment. 

Laws are enacted to keep societies orderly; not to be hung on walls as souvenir. Laws are made for a purpose. They are made to be respected and obeyed. The reason that stipulated penalties for breach are made explicit is to allow culprits abundant opportunity for informed reflection before they break the law. And, if anyone was expecting bin Laden to simply walk up to a local FBI and say "Here I am; I am ready to defend myself in court. Ayman, please step forward to the counter;" they need a huge dose of reality injection. Nurse, please!

[JamieLMyer]

@Orlandoblkman--honestly, OMG right back at you.  I bet you are a nice man, but you are the biggest conspiracy theorist I have ever run across.  And I have to repeat a statement made to you in an earlier post...the minute you invoked the name of Pat Robertson...that was you right? Well, let's just say at that moment you and I agreed to disagree on just about everything.  I, too, am entitled to my opinion, and in my opinion that man is a total and complete nut job (hate monger extraordinare).  So let's agree that we disagree...irrevocably..OK?  Do a cost benefit analysis--the cost of 9/11 in terms of lost political clout for the Republican party not to mention one costly and ultimately devastating financial blunder--wasn't worth it even if you dare to imagine that it is the truth.  Aye, Orlandoblkman.

[angela michelle erby]

I think Bill Cosby said it years ago...The proof is in the pudding!

[JamieLMyer]

PS I know what a black op is...LMAO...aye!!  thanks for not assuming...

JamieLMyer said:

@Orlandoblkman--honestly, OMG right back at you.  I bet you are a nice man, but you are the biggest conspiracy theorist I have ever run across.  And I have to repeat a statement made to you in an earlier post...the minute you invoked the name of Pat Robertson...that was you right? Well, let's just say at that moment you and I agreed to disagree on just about everything.  I, too, am entitled to my opinion, and in my opinion that man is a total and complete nut job (hate monger extraordinare).  So let's agree that we disagree...irrevocably..OK?  Do a cost benefit analysis--the cost of 9/11 in terms of lost political clout for the Republican party not to mention one costly and ultimately devastating financial blunder--wasn't worth it even if you dare to imagine that it is the truth.  Aye, Orlandoblkman.

[JamieLMyer]

@ Angela...define "proof" please.  

 

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

...Patrick Moynihan

[Penguin Board of Directors]

Angela,

Perhaps, Mr. Cosby meant that "the taste of the pudding is in the eating." 

angela michelle erby said:

I think Bill Cosby said it years ago...The proof is in the pudding!

[Orlandoblkman]

Okay Jamie...I agree that we disagree.

But my thoughts are enforced by over 12 books.

JamieLMyer said:

@Orlandoblkman--honestly, OMG right back at you.  I bet you are a nice man, but you are the biggest conspiracy theorist I have ever run across.  And I have to repeat a statement made to you in an earlier post...the minute you invoked the name of Pat Robertson...that was you right? Well, let's just say at that moment you and I agreed to disagree on just about everything.  I, too, am entitled to my opinion, and in my opinion that man is a total and complete nut job (hate monger extraordinare).  So let's agree that we disagree...irrevocably..OK?  Do a cost benefit analysis--the cost of 9/11 in terms of lost political clout for the Republican party not to mention one costly and ultimately devastating financial blunder--wasn't worth it even if you dare to imagine that it is the truth.  Aye, Orlandoblkman.