Martin vs Malcolm Passive vs Aggressive

[Bruce Alan Jackson]

 I was wondering why is it that Martin is more honored in our history than Malcolm...Now of course you can hear stories and idealogies of both men..yet repeatedly and of course during Black History Month "lol" sarcastic smirk at this..

You get the same Main stream Media contribution of.. The march on Washington Speech..by Martin of I have a Dream..and you get the speels of his Non violent idealogy..

Yet never have i heard or seen in the Main stream Media stories on Malcolms speeches Of

 

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Is it the continuation of Main Strea to keep Black Passive and sedate..instead of fired up and Aggressive...

 

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

I believe that both men were pure in the pursuit of justice for people of color.  However, one's method was socially exceptable whereas the other man's method was not.  Dr. King had support by the masses within and without all the way up to the White House. Malcolm X, his own religious organization begin to back off of his campaign for justice?  At least that's the perception. Because there were those in the society then who believed "by any means necessary, but the power to move the organization forward in a unified manner was lacking.

 

Basically you can't take anything away from either man.  History has recorded both as "great" men.  Both shed blood for us.  No one can determine how society will play their role.  Same thing going on now.  Sometimes, society tends to take a biopolar stance???  We don't know what we want or what we are willing to fight for.   "2 the pure all things r pure".

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

There is one more component that I overlooked in my 1st reply.  That is Dr. King lived long enough to get the Civil Rights Act passed through Congress.  Dr. King lived long enough see some of his work become law.  Dr. King received the Nobel Peace Prize for his work.  Once you do a list you can clearly see that Dr. King out lived Malcolm X and had an opportunity to see some of the benefits of his labor.

 

2 the pure all things r pure...

[Osirian]

It is because Dr. King 'cared' about how white people felt. Malcolm X did'nt.

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

That may be?  I think Dr. King knew he had to use diplomacy if he wanted to make any headway with moving the Civil Rights agenda forward.  Obviously his approach got more accomplished.  Not deminishing anything Malcolm X did or said, again both men were "great".  I believe both voice needed 2 b heard as well<3

[Bruce Alan Jackson]

 Malcolm beliefs and feelings towards whites and all races changed after his pilgrimage to Mecca...
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Osirian said:

It is because Dr. King 'cared' about how white people felt. Malcolm X did'nt.

[Bruce Alan Jackson]

I agree with you...the point i'm more so getting at is that even with Martins ideolgy being accepted and supported by others..Have the accomplishments strides made thru the movement really progressed the state of blacks significantly??? has intergration and assimilation into white society benefited us..would not things have been better today if Blacks had decided to better develope their own society...put more effort into maintaining and advancing the social infrastructures of our own...to this day Blacks still suffer in disproportionate amounts compared to all others in poverty, education, wealth. etc...Unlike every other culture in America we are still wihtout a foundation of cultural and religious beliefs, tradition or generational wealth...  
Maria "ReRe" Leslie said:

I believe that both men were pure in the pursuit of justice for people of color.  However, one's method was socially exceptable whereas the other man's method was not.  Dr. King had support by the masses within and without all the way up to the White House. Malcolm X, his own religious organization begin to back off of his campaign for justice?  At least that's the perception. Because there were those in the society then who believed "by any means necessary, but the power to move the organization forward in a unified manner was lacking.

 

Basically you can't take anything away from either man.  History has recorded both as "great" men.  Both shed blood for us.  No one can determine how society will play their role.  Same thing going on now.  Sometimes, society tends to take a biopolar stance???  We don't know what we want or what we are willing to fight for.   "2 the pure all things r pure".

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

Yes, much changed about Malcolm X when he returned from his journey to Mecca.  It seemed once Malcolm X was enlightened and realized there were all races at Mecca worshipping he saw the world in a different light.  Then his own people turned on him is how history reads.

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

One must admit that both men were a credit to the world as a whole.  We are a blessed people regardless to what we face for having people along the way who will stand up for what they believe is right.  What someone believes is right and what is actually right are two different things. That may require two different methods.  2 the pure all things are pure.

[Walter Simtec Simmons]

Much of what Malcolm represented seems to have gotten lost as observers mostly focus on the difference rather than the unity Malcolm shared with his American Muslim brothers.  Malcolm fought for Freedom, Justice and equality by any means necessary.  When so much emphasis is placed on race, it becomes the focal point and the essence of the mission is lost. The battle is much bigger than race. We are in the 21^st century now and the paradigm has shifted. The powers that be have almost rendered the middle class powerless. The answers to the problems are in our heads but it won’t take root until we begin to communicate with each other on a higher plane.

[Osirian]

I know, but he still held to the premise that our oppression at the time was due to white americans, so much so that he wanted to bring our plight to the United Nations.

Bruce Alan Jackson said:

 Malcolm beliefs and feelings towards whites and all races changed after his pilgrimage to Mecca...
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Osirian said:

It is because Dr. King 'cared' about how white people felt. Malcolm X did'nt.

[Byard Pidgeon]

To a large degree, I think Malcolm inadvertently helped make MLK into the icon he is today. Malcolm scared the bejesus out of the majority of Americans, including a lot of black Americans. However, many of those who were afraid of Malcolm's messages were not racists...they were afraid of the messages, but not opposed to civil rights for all.

Those people found their moral compass in MLK, who was seen as a safer alternative, and was able to accomplish a lot in his too short life. But, look what happened when MLK became overtly concerned and activist in terms of class inequality...the power structure turned against him and turned the citizenry against him, because he was now even more threatening to the system than Malcolm had ever been.

Nothing's changed...except now that we have a black President (who serves the financial and corporate elites quite well), the never satisfied system howls for his head whenever he makes even his slight efforts to redress inequalities.

[Maria "ReRe" Leslie]

During the prime time of both these two great men, black folk in America were scared.  They were not scared because of what either Malcolm X or Dr. ML King proposed to alleviate the pitiful condition of the black man.  The colored folk during that time was scared of retribution for having associated themselves to any organization that would suggest equality.  Being scared had very little to do with Malcolm X or Dr. ML King.  Black folk tend to act scared today:(

 

I believe its wrong for us today to try and give one man credit for the other man's accomplishment(s).  Both men accomplished something that black folk didn't have before they began their work.  If nothing but a voice crying out on behalf of a folk who did not really appreciate either one of them for real.