Hot Stuff: Sharpton vs. West

[Smiley and West]

		West goes behind the scenes of his heated debate with Rev. Al Sharpton on MSNBC this week. West: Al Sharpton doesn’t have the kind of influence Tim Geithner has, who comes right out of the Wall St. oligarchic world. Brother Al & I go back 30 years so he knows it’s not a personal thing. He’s in a tough space and I’m deeply concerned about him.

[Ikalean Wilkerson]

Did Dr. West and Tavis put up so much arguement when Bush put the boots to the Black community.  Actually both of the Bush's, Reagan, Nixon and a few others.  Man all the fuss these guy are putting up now would make you think we all thought President Obama was going to walk into the White House and just hit the Black agenda right on top and make things take off.  What has West and Smiley been doing for the Black community lately besides talking at conferences?  Just tell me!

Author Andrea Clinton said:

Plain and simple, the reality of the situation is:

PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY WITH THEIR FINANCIAL CONDITION!!! I think the issue we all have is that we all know Obama knows our condition and the proper things that need to be done aren't being done. We all know we are supporting several wars and war-like campaigns presently and we know our tax dollars are going to support those efforts. The problem is we do not choose to trade food, clothing, shelter, etc. for war. The average American would rather put those efforts into running this country so that we can all finally "HAVE" and be financially stable; self-sufficient & independent. We thought we'd get that with Obama, and we realize there are underlining factors making it difficult for him to do, or at least that's what we tell ourselves. Nontheless, we still stand here in need and looking to this man, Pres. Obama, to do right by us all. I believe there's much we don't know. I believe Al-Sharpton has the best of intentions re: Obama. But Rev., it is what it is, we are in need; you know this.

I believe that Brother West as well as Tavis just don't want to put on blinders and act like everything is ok because Obama is black/African American, etc. The issues MUST be dealt with. We need to get our affairs in order, especially with the World Bank saying millions will be in poverty. What is to become of the minority?

Author Andrea Clinton

Twitter: Teaclinton13

 

 

 

[Aqili Tony]

First off, I don’t appreciate the term “VS.”  Like Lakers “VS.”, Boston a game or something or better yet Du Bois “VS.” Garvey, one Brother “VS.’s” Another (how about that). “The hell with this term “VS.” especially when the outcome is one brother against another”. Our problem as a people is too grand of a problem to contend with this behavior. We must over-stand that these brothers are suppose to have differences; witch shows me, at least one of them has the heart of telling his trues. I have an issue, and have had an issue with one of these brothers from way back when I first learned to trust my reading (at 30, while in prison). To learn about the 70’s doing so I had to go back to the 60’s and understanding we must pick up where our top mans (MLK “VS” Malcolm) has stopped (our leaders were dying off and this brother just sat and did nothing in helps of stopping the spread of black on black violence in the 70’s or the 80’s he could have easily got up in the 70’s and did right by us) you must pick up the ball where it lie and take off to the goal. He didn’t care then and he doesn’t care now and/ but while having this on my mind I would say it’s time for a few power heads  to together and put a plan in action. I’m especially glad it happens with my brother, because he care so much that he is made to fit us right in (besides the point I bet he would love to have more of us in his classes). So let’s not fit in to the “VS.” (It’s a very small=VS. box) when it comes to your brothers, and please over-stand that we all have deferent’s.

 

PS: If Gods will me I will go back to school in hopes to learn better how to articulate on paper as in speech.   

[Matu Feliciano]

As if I voted for Obama only because he was black~ no, nor did I think he would get it ALL done, no~I did expect Obama to have to be made to listen to the po of America, no matter their color~Obama has not done that or stood for the blue collar worker yet, yes, I said yet~ an so we have DR. West to stand for all, as he has always done~ This is not a black and white America, it's ALL colores and working class or po working class America.

Mr. Sharpton, needs to catch up and stop thinking that MR. Obama is in his pew~ nope

[KEITH (TART) BOND]

I am in full support of President Obama.  I am not in support of you or Smiley.  I am insulted that you would call President Obama a mascot.  So I discount everything you say.  I don't agree with you.  Rev Sharpton is not weak.  I have respect for Rev Sharpton.  I'm part of the black working class.  I am one who has educated themselves and pulled themselves up by the bootstraps.  If I were you I would focus on improving black education; reducing inner city crime; improving black health care; focusing on the horrible state of the black family, lack of black father raising their childrren; reducing the black murder rate; etc.; etc.  I want to reiterate that I love President Obama.  He has an extremely tough job trying to pull this country out of the brink of depression.  At the same time 20% of the electorate hate him because he is black.  I refuse to buy into or accept your criticism of President Obama.  If you don't go out and vigorously support his reelection bid, so be it.  I will with every ounce of energy I have.  And guess what, so will 90 -95% of blacks who are voting.  You and Smiley are big disappointments as far as I am concerned!!!! 

 

 

 

 

[mgmedic]

Thank you Dr.West for the way you stand up for everyone that is stuck in the lower 98%. Though I have been through 6 years of college since 1999, I only bring home $455.00 more per paycheck now than I did then. It hurts and it hurts if your black or white or Asian or Latino, etc.. I know that President Obama is an incredibly brilliant man and I couldn't imagine having voted for anyone else, but I want him to fight like hell for the middle/working/lower class harder. None of us, no matter who you are or where you're from, can afford to lose the presidency to the R's, or worse, the T's. I feel like he needs some tough love, some constructive criticism, whatever it takes to get some relief. The President has accomplished some great things, but I can't go along with everything. I know he has to be the president of all, I just wish he would do more for the most.

[Aqili Tony]

Come on Keith "Disappointments"

[Jesse Jones]

The ecconomic system that rules us automaticly creates the financial condition that keeps the poor and suffering. When the founding fathers of this nation wrote the declaration and coined the phrase "We the People" they did not mean all the people. I do not believe the government will ever truly address the issues of the poor. We must understand the nature of "Capitalisim" to understand its causes and effects. The government, under capitalisim is nothing more than the executive commitee of the ruling class ( the rich).   Andrea Clinton said:

Plain and simple, the reality of the situation is:

PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY WITH THEIR FINANCIAL CONDITION!!! I think the issue we all have is that we all know Obama knows our condition and the proper things that need to be done aren't being done. We all know we are supporting several wars and war-like campaigns presently and we know our tax dollars are going to support those efforts. The problem is we do not choose to trade food, clothing, shelter, etc. for war. The average American would rather put those efforts into running this country so that we can all finally "HAVE" and be financially stable; self-sufficient & independent. We thought we'd get that with Obama, and we realize there are underlining factors making it difficult for him to do, or at least that's what we tell ourselves. Nontheless, we still stand here in need and looking to this man, Pres. Obama, to do right by us all. I believe there's much we don't know. I believe Al-Sharpton has the best of intentions re: Obama. But Rev., it is what it is, we are in need; you know this.

I believe that Brother West as well as Tavis just don't want to put on blinders and act like everything is ok because Obama is black/African American, etc. The issues MUST be dealt with. We need to get our affairs in order, especially with the World Bank saying millions will be in poverty. What is to become of the minority?

Author Andrea Clinton

Twitter: Teaclinton13

 

 

 

[Steven Valentine]

I see Dr. West using "Socratic Criticism" and Rev. Sharpton using unflinching loyalty.  Both seem to support the President in their own way.  Well done Dr. West.  I too have become very skeptical of President Obama's administration.  I voted for him, but I don't know if I'll be voting for him again.

 

What I would say to Reverend Sharpton or any man of God.  There's a reason the prophets of old were warned not to eat the King's food, and to take a different route home.  Food for thought.

[KEITH (TART) BOND]

Not my food for thought.  I'm with President Obama all the way.  You see a black President is new to a lot of folk.  My recommendation to all the black skeptics is to support the President with a sense of urgency.  You may never get the opportunity to vote for a black man again in your lifetime.  I think a lot of the black critics and skeptics don't realize what he is dealing with on the other side!!!  The white media and right wing extremists want us not to support the President.  They love it when West and Smiley run off their mouths criticizing the President.  I can hear Morning Joe emphasizing that the President is losing his black support.  DON'T BUY INTO IT!

Steven Valentine said:

I see Dr. West using "Socratic Criticism" and Rev. Sharpton using unflinching loyalty.  Both seem to support the President in their own way.  Well done Dr. West.  I too have become very skeptical of President Obama's administration.  I voted for him, but I don't know if I'll be voting for him again.

 

What I would say to Reverend Sharpton or any man of God.  There's a reason the prophets of old were warned not to eat the King's food, and to take a different route home.  Food for thought.

[lisa swytzer]

I THINK I LOST WHAT I WAS DOING I WILL TRY IT AGAIN   WELL I WILL HOPE THAT YOU GOT THAT FIRST HALF  NEXT IN THESE CITIES YOU WILL ALSO BE WELL REPRESENTED  WITH ART FOOD HISTORY CLOTHES HAIR CARE ALONG WITH YOUR FAVORITE JOBS EDUCATION HOUSING AND RECREATION AND ITS A PLACE WHERE YOU BRING THE NEEDS OF THAT STATE   WHEITHER IT IS OBAMA OR THE TEA WE HAVE A PLACE TO SEE IF OUR NEEDS ARE MET  AND IT WILL NOT JUST BE ONE HERO VOICE BUT ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND WHAT IS MISSING IN THEIR STATE AND AS AWHOLE    I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE POOR OR BLACK POSITION  BUT ARE WE GIVING HIM OUR JOB  TRYING MAKE OBAMA OUR HERO  I THINK WE HAVE LEARN THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH PLATE FOR ONE PERSON EVEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE HE NEEDS A CABINATE   IF THIS HAPPENS OR NOT I SO WANT TO SEE DETROIT MICHIGAN AS A BLACK CITY WE HAVE TOO MUCH GREAT HISTORY TO LOSES THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD JOE LOUIS HITSVILLE  IFYOU WANT THE BLACK NEEDS IN MICHIGAN SOUND BOARDED TO GOVERMENT BRING IT TO DETROIT AND WE WILL TAKE IT TO WASHINGTON

[lisa swytzer]

TAVIS IF I LOST THE FIRST HALF OF THIS I SAID I AM SORRY I MISSED YOU IN DETROIT BUT I HOPED THEY MADE YOU FEEL LOVED UNLIKE CHARLIE SHEEN MR.WEST I WILL ALWAYS LOVE  HE IS A LEGECY  I JUST THINK WE NEED A FOCUS AND OBLAMA THE GREAT BLACK FATHER IS NOT IT  WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER HERO WE CAN TAKE OF OURSELVES  WE SHOULD BE JUST BLESS TO GIVE OUR FOCUS TO SOMEONE WHO COULD BETTER LISTEN TO US  GIVE HIM A FOCUS   MY FOCUS IS CHOCOLATE CITIES

lisa swytzer said:

I THINK I LOST WHAT I WAS DOING I WILL TRY IT AGAIN   WELL I WILL HOPE THAT YOU GOT THAT FIRST HALF  NEXT IN THESE CITIES YOU WILL ALSO BE WELL REPRESENTED  WITH ART FOOD HISTORY CLOTHES HAIR CARE ALONG WITH YOUR FAVORITE JOBS EDUCATION HOUSING AND RECREATION AND ITS A PLACE WHERE YOU BRING THE NEEDS OF THAT STATE   WHEITHER IT IS OBAMA OR THE TEA WE HAVE A PLACE TO SEE IF OUR NEEDS ARE MET  AND IT WILL NOT JUST BE ONE HERO VOICE BUT ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND WHAT IS MISSING IN THEIR STATE AND AS AWHOLE    I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE POOR OR BLACK POSITION  BUT ARE WE GIVING HIM OUR JOB  TRYING MAKE OBAMA OUR HERO  I THINK WE HAVE LEARN THAT THIS IS TOO MUCH PLATE FOR ONE PERSON EVEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE HE NEEDS A CABINATE   IF THIS HAPPENS OR NOT I SO WANT TO SEE DETROIT MICHIGAN AS A BLACK CITY WE HAVE TOO MUCH GREAT HISTORY TO LOSES THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD JOE LOUIS HITSVILLE  IFYOU WANT THE BLACK NEEDS IN MICHIGAN SOUND BOARDED TO GOVERMENT BRING IT TO DETROIT AND WE WILL TAKE IT TO WASHINGTON

[KEITH (TART) BOND]

I stand unflinchingly by my assessment of any Black folks that criticize President Obama.  Maybe we have forgotten how difficult it is going up against the right wing haters and extremists.  Maybe black folk have gotten soft and lazy.  Get out there and support the President in this fight.  His opponents are taking no prisoners and will give him no quarter.  I am a former gangster from Buffalo, NY who has educated himself and made a positive contribution to the black community.  I live in inner city DC amongst the working poor and black working/middle class.  We are going to have to make a choice.  The Smileys and Wests of the world with their weak criticism or the President.  I love the President and his family.  We have not even discussed his wife.  A beautiful, educated, articulate black woman as first lady in the White House.  The Obamas are role models for every black family and families of color in the U.S.  I am loyal and have extreme condfidence in the President.  He has my full support.  Nothing can change my mind.

Aqili Tony said:

Come on Keith "Disappointments"