Droopy Drawers Law

[Smiley and West]

		Florida’s legislature bans “droopy drawers” in all public schools. Smiley: I'm more concerned about what happens next. What are they going to start legislating next? West: Gangsters on Wall Street walk free with their three-pieces on, but they gotta zero on brother Jamal with his pants down. This is what brother Martin called “warped priorities”.

[Osirian]

Yep this is Obamas' fault too. The minute he took office he should have bought with tax payer dollars, every Black family with kids two belts. Or maybe, since Barack has shown that a Black man can ascend to the office of President with his pants held high, it became time for white legislators to hold all Black male youth too the same standards which Barack has set, so they felt the need to create another avenue to criminalize Black youth...and blame Obama for it.

 

What's next... well maybe they will find a way to criminalize Black parents on welfare whos' kids wear new Jordans. Maybe they will call it the 'welfare for jordans fraud act', tavis and west better get on it and say that Barack needs to create a law justifying the practice or he will have failed the Black community.

[Marcus Van Williamson]

Though I do completely agree with the position, as I am certain many older men and middle-aged brothers do concur, I cannot stand this look, one thing is for certain.  It takes dollars to institute and enforce this code.  And the poor young men who are guilty of failing in the code of the fashion police will be stuffing more money into the courthouse coffers.  Money they don't have that leaves them often to resort to other negative activities in order to find.

Furthermore, it is amazing that our dear educated brothers who proposed this piece of legislation are so expiditious when we all know that the long range effect has barely been reason.  The only reason such an issue could so quickly and easily progress through the state's legislature is because yet again, it is we ourselves who run "ass in hand" giving the system the weapons it needs to dismantle and destroy our own.

This war on class is driven by these very types of legislation pieces that bare no other end than to be enforced in low income districts.  See, little white boys who mimic this fashion don't let it hang where the minorities hang. They tend to rock this look after they leave the presence of mom and dad while they are hanging out at the International Mall or in the skate parks and so forth - not in the wilderness of the hood where the patrol units will be sent to target this non-sensible approach to fostering a means to profile anyone of us or our children.  [Can't you already hear the officers new testimony?  "I observed the defendants underwear exposed and decided to approach and question."]

Come on people.  The poor are financing enough legal and political engines of legislation from seat belt laws, mandatory insurance and child bicycle safety legislation in many places.  We have to get real at home. 

 

[Bri'on]

The school is a test model for the community. If it works in the public schools, it should work in the public streets...yeah right!

[Cerrita Mathis]

Wow!! this is good, first I agree with Smiley & West that this is an important issue that needs to be addressed but not that important that it needs to be put in legislation I definetly could think of some more pressing issues to be ledgislated than that but anyway. I agree that our young man need to be Mentored but how can they be Men-tored if most of our older men need to be Men-tored themselves, we have men over 35 who are still playing games with the ladies, not being responsible to their families or their own children, still living and depending on their mothers and overall wont grow up Mentally so therefore if there are not enough roll models for our young men to look up to they find their own roll models and allow them to Men-tor them through rap music and videos.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

[Shadrack V Potts]

They are playing politics and running away from the real issues. The government is cutting education funding all over the nation but they have time and money to pass these senseless laws that isn't going to have a major impact on the real issues we face in the impoverished communities. 

[Marcus Van Williamson]

@Cerrita,

I read you loud and clear!  10-4

However, I don't think young men need mentors or role models as much as it gets thrown around.  They need opportunities more than anything.  Opportunity always seems to dry up long before the last guy gets fed.

We need to stop encouraging individuality and begin to promote unity and solidarity.  Stop promoting patterining after mentors who have individually managed to meet some idea of success in a corrupt system.  We must instead begin to promote the pantenting of ideas.  Energize and synergize our young people to become great TOGETHER rather pushing up individuals to greatness only to soon after find that those who were promoted have a motive of greed that overshadow their concern for the problems they were elevated from.

And let's be clear and truthful.  A college education does not equal opportunity - especially if financed with student loans.  A college degree, though it increases the chances for success, is still a casino risk that leaves the house [the bank] holding the mortgage to young persons credit ratings and their futures.

Even if these young people pull their pants up, they will still remain with dismal chances for success in the game because they don't have a copy of the rules and they are missing a lot of the game pieces.  These legislators should be concerning themselves more with removing the barriers that are preventing young men from entering the game.

Opportunity! Opportunity! Opportunity!

[Avid Follower]

Young black girls and women are walking around in tight jeans with their rear torso exposed as cleavage and some young black grown men (some in and some out of school) are doing the same along the northeastern coast.  Do you like what you see?  Should someone even if it's the government tell them not to dress this way?

[Cerrita Mathis]

I  agree totally and you said some of my responses that I would have given so thank you, but I will get back with you on this subject in more detailed got to go now stay blessed and prosperous.

PeaceIn,

Cerrita

M arcus Van Williamson said:

@Cerrita,

I read you loud and clear!  10-4

However, I don't think young men need mentors or role models as much as it gets thrown around.  They need opportunities more than anything.  Opportunity always seems to dry up long before the last guy gets fed.

We need to stop encouraging individuality and begin to promote unity and solidarity.  Stop promoting patterining after mentors who have individually managed to meet some idea of success in a corrupt system.  We must instead begin to promote the pantenting of ideas.  Energize and synergize our young people to become great TOGETHER rather pushing up individuals to greatness only to soon after find that those who were promoted have a motive of greed that overshadow their concern for the problems they were elevated from.

And let's be clear and truthful.  A college education does not equal opportunity - especially if financed with student loans.  A college degree, though it increases the chances for success, is still a casino risk that leaves the house [the bank] holding the mortgage to young persons credit ratings and their futures.

Even if these young people pull their pants up, they will still remain with dismal chances for success in the game because they don't have a copy of the rules and they are missing a lot of the game pieces.  These legislators should be concerning themselves more with removing the barriers that are preventing young men from entering the game.

Opportunity! Opportunity! Opportunity!

[Tony A. Bowdry]

somewhere the mark has been missed. i feel that this type of behavior goes back to basics; good ole home training fundamentals. as a boy growing up my parents ( especially my mother ) would never let me walk out the door let alone anywhere in public with my pants even slightly down, if i did it would be " PUT ON A BELT! " now this new generation  call it swagging. well i've stated before if you got to swag; swag with somthing in your head rather than allowing the pants to fall below the waste. that's the reason why they can't get jobs, they have no respect, they have no self asteem, because they'er trying to be cool. the government needs to get involve and also the government need to implement a law to cut this trend or behavior out the school system and else where. yes i agree that money could be used for other things but this has gotten completely out of hand. we often hear comments stated that " our kids are trying or need to make there own statement of themselves. "  children have no statement if they are living in their parents house,eating their food, sleeping in their bed, and wearing the clothes that they buy. you pull your pants up, and young ladies put some clothes on and cover up. now it too is our responsibility as parents to do our jobs and tell our kids. not just let them make there own statement. because when a child steps foot out of our homes they represent us as well. they way our children represent us in public say alot about the job that we do as parents. untill we get back to the basics of " train up a child in the way he should go, " the problem will never be solved. some of the kids need guidance. others just need to be discipline. when we spare the rod we spoil the child, and our children have been too much spoil. by giving them everything they want and not letting them earn for their keep. albert einstein said this, " the significant problem we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. " what we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, and not knowledge in pursuit of the child. if education is always to be concieved along the same antiquated lines of a transmission of knowledge, there is little to be hoped from it in the bettering of man's future. for what is the use of transmitting knowledge if the individual's total development lags behind? " so the time has come that we need to take a stand as well to make a statement that this swagging should not be tolerated, it is distasteful, and it should be detested from the start. " we will conserve only what we love. we will love only what we understand. we will understand only what we are taught. "th most valluable of all education is the ability to make yourself do the thing you have to do, when it has to be done, whether we llike it or not. "

[Ms Kerry]

It takes a village.   If not now, when?  If not us, who?  If not this way, how?

 

Tony A. Bowdry said:

somewhere the mark has been missed. i feel that this type of behavior goes back to basics; good ole home training fundamentals. as a boy growing up my parents ( especially my mother ) would never let me walk out the door let alone anywhere in public with my pants even slightly down, if i did it would be " PUT ON A BELT! " now this new generation  call it swagging. well i've stated before if you got to swag; swag with somthing in your head rather than allowing the pants to fall below the waste. that's the reason why they can't get jobs, they have no respect, they have no self asteem, because they'er trying to be cool. the government needs to get involve and also the government need to implement a law to cut this trend or behavior out the school system and else where. yes i agree that money could be used for other things but this has gotten completely out of hand. we often hear comments stated that " our kids are trying or need to make there own statement of themselves. "  children have no statement if they are living in their parents house,eating their food, sleeping in their bed, and wearing the clothes that they buy. you pull your pants up, and young ladies put some clothes on and cover up. now it too is our responsibility as parents to do our jobs and tell our kids. not just let them make there own statement. because when a child steps foot out of our homes they represent us as well. they way our children represent us in public say alot about the job that we do as parents. untill we get back to the basics of " train up a child in the way he should go, " the problem will never be solved. some of the kids need guidance. others just need to be discipline. when we spare the rod we spoil the child, and our children have been too much spoil. by giving them everything they want and not letting them earn for their keep. albert einstein said this, " the significant problem we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. " what we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, and not knowledge in pursuit of the child. if education is always to be concieved along the same antiquated lines of a transmission of knowledge, there is little to be hoped from it in the bettering of man's future. for what is the use of transmitting knowledge if the individual's total development lags behind? " so the time has come that we need to take a stand as well to make a statement that this swagging should not be tolerated, it is distasteful, and it should be detested from the start. " we will conserve only what we love. we will love only what we understand. we will understand only what we are taught. "th most valluable of all education is the ability to make yourself do the thing you have to do, when it has to be done, whether we llike it or not. "

[Tony A. Bowdry]

yes that is true. but it seems as though the village left on the boat. we have no since of communicating with each other in our communities anymore, that's wher it's starts. when i look at the community and the alike, i live in even in our churches, schools, or just on the street.ther was a time that anyone could discpline children. now it's If you touch my child,don't say anything to my child, don't discipline my child, let me handle my child, etc,etc. so it' d_ _ _ n if we do or if we don't. the communities today are not like yester years. if not now when; well thats up to us as a whole to make the village whether we want help or not. if not us , who? it will continue to be the prison system or the gangs. because they are a sure thing to leading our kid into distruction. it has to take all of us to make it happen.  i know there those that we want our children not be chastised by. but their are those who has the know how to teach our kid right from wrong. i  got some of mine in the church,school, neighbors. but we seem to not care for each other. we stay to ourselves. but how can we be a village if we continue to not take a interest in the community. how can we be a community if we don't fine the common ground to work together.  if not this way, how? the best way is to start when they are young and learn to instill those values that our parents taught us it want hurt. train them up, don't let them tell you what not going to happen. stop being their friends and let's be there parents. let them learn how to earn their keep. reward them only for what they do productively. the only true roll model our children have is we the parents. they look to us for food, clothes, shelter, why not let them look to us for guidance, and undrstanding. them we need to take time with our children as well yes we all are busy in our careers but we still need to give them the quality time they deserve.  the answers are out there but it's up to us to seek them out. maybe what i'm saying is ole school, and repeticious. but if it was good enough for us those who were raise by iron fist parents it good enough for them as well. to let a child run my household or tell me what he /she is goin to or not going to do tells me i did't do my job right as a parent from the start. but when we let them know that i don't care what their friends at their parents house you will not bring it in the house wher i pay the bills and feed and clothe you. let's be honest it can be done, it can be done.
Ms Kerry said:

It takes a village.   If not now, when?  If not us, who?  If not this way, how

Tony A. Bowdry said:

somewhere the mark has been missed. i feel that this type of behavior goes back to basics; good ole home training fundamentals. as a boy growing up my parents ( especially my mother ) would never let me walk out the door let alone anywhere in public with my pants even slightly down, if i did it would be " PUT ON A BELT! " now this new generation  call it swagging. well i've stated before if you got to swag; swag with somthing in your head rather than allowing the pants to fall below the waste. that's the reason why they can't get jobs, they have no respect, they have no self asteem, because they'er trying to be cool. the government needs to get involve and also the government need to implement a law to cut this trend or behavior out the school system and else where. yes i agree that money could be used for other things but this has gotten completely out of hand. we often hear comments stated that " our kids are trying or need to make there own statement of themselves. "  children have no statement if they are living in their parents house,eating their food, sleeping in their bed, and wearing the clothes that they buy. you pull your pants up, and young ladies put some clothes on and cover up. now it too is our responsibility as parents to do our jobs and tell our kids. not just let them make there own statement. because when a child steps foot out of our homes they represent us as well. they way our children represent us in public say alot about the job that we do as parents. untill we get back to the basics of " train up a child in the way he should go, " the problem will never be solved. some of the kids need guidance. others just need to be discipline. when we spare the rod we spoil the child, and our children have been too much spoil. by giving them everything they want and not letting them earn for their keep. albert einstein said this, " the significant problem we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. " what we want to see is the child in pursuit of knowledge, and not knowledge in pursuit of the child. if education is always to be concieved along the same antiquated lines of a transmission of knowledge, there is little to be hoped from it in the bettering of man's future. for what is the use of transmitting knowledge if the individual's total development lags behind? " so the time has come that we need to take a stand as well to make a statement that this swagging should not be tolerated, it is distasteful, and it should be detested from the start. " we will conserve only what we love. we will love only what we understand. we will understand only what we are taught. "th most valluable of all education is the ability to make yourself do the thing you have to do, when it has to be done, whether we llike it or not. "

[Lydell Jackson]

As much as I hate the "Droopy Drawers" look, I have to agree with Brother West! We have far too many serious issues with the real "Thugs" in America. I would much rather those suit wearing gansta folk on capital hill and in local goverment wear "Droopy Drawers" if it meant they were going to be as loyal and focused on our real social ills as they are committed to this non-issue! (I would tolerate it for a while!)

I wonder if the elected brothers who proposed this sillyness even seriously talk and made an attempt to influence young men (and young mothers and fathers) in their respective communities at all? I'd like to know what their efforts were to resolve this before this legislative kick in the "Droopy Drawers."