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Permalink Reply by Ikalean Wilkerson on January 3, 2011 at 2:07pm What country have you been living in? The US government does murder or railroad into jail anyone or group that it deems is an enemy worthy of such. Go and read about some of the assassination attempts on Fidel Castro. Study the FBI directive on the Black Panther Party. You could be a nice guy, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and end up getting a government bullet in the throat. You better wake up. You could end up on that terrorist list to be terminated just like there are regular everyday American citizens all across the country that can't get on an airplane.
Eric Childs said:This story has a level of sensationalism to it "the Obama Administration asserts its right to off you", really now. The "assertion" is that the government has the right to kill suspected terrorist. You guys make it sound like the administration will kill anyone whom it deems an enemy. This administration has no record of doing any harm to innocent citizens.
Permalink Reply by G. Nicks on January 3, 2011 at 3:40pm Fair enough but the topic being discussed along with the other measures I mentioned plus increasing the war budget to a new high, bailing out the banks etc are currently taking place under the Obama administration regardless if other administrations committed similar acts(which they did and I’m certainly not excusing them) it doesn’t excuse the fact that Obama has kept these policies in place especially when he said he would do otherwise. At this point Obama has shown his true colors he works for the “elite” members of society the same way Bush, Clinton, Regan, etc did. The blame the bush game is dead at this point. Also when Bush was in office damn near everybody was getting in his behind(except redneck idiots) especially black people and rightfully so. Now that Obama and his administration are doing the same exact thing as Bush at this very moment we’re suppose to let it slide? Wrong is wrong period.
My problem is that Tavis and Dr. West inferred that "President Obama" is up to something no other president has ever done. Shoot if you don't like someone, don't try to find something you don't like and act as if they are the only perpertrators, heck Bush had bunches of people killed, Bush's VP nearly killed his own friend while "hunting", not to mention the soldiers deaths that have been covered up. What Tavis and West brought up has been done for years, do Tavis and West...bring up a new topic.
Permalink Reply by Eddie Otero on January 3, 2011 at 4:12pm Smiley and West: As-Salaam Aliakum: Response to your question. "Can a U.S. President Kill American Citizens anytime, anywhere"? If Barack Obama is ruled by Satan, yes, but God will deal with him for his sins and God will burn him in a lake of fire when judgement day arrives,mark these words in stone!!!
Permalink Reply by Eddie Otero on January 3, 2011 at 4:15pm
Permalink Reply by Clark Arrington on January 4, 2011 at 9:07pm I am not really taking you guys to task so to speak but I was somewhat disappointed that you did not question the classification ofMuslim extremist as terrorist and their terrorist activities as “acts of war.” Once you buy into that argument, it does not matter whether the “terrorist” is an American or not as the rules of war apply. However, the so-called terrorist are really organized criminals. War is between two states and not a state and an organized group ofcivilians. Its interesting how the Bush administration used the concept of “war on poverty” and “war on drugs” to declare “war on terrorism” without anybody noticing the differences. Of course we now know the USA needed the war classification to invade Iraq and secondarily Afghanistan. The classification was also used to create the Homeland Security infrastructure with its exceptional and massive surveillance system. The public got played! I don’t expect Smiley and West to get played.
Love what you brothers are doing. Its a great partnership! The program is rich in information, insight and camaraderie!
Clark Arrington
Dar es Salaam
Permalink Reply by Ikalean Wilkerson on January 5, 2011 at 9:06am What country have you been living in? The US government does murder or railroad into jail anyone or group that it deems is an enemy worthy of such. Go and read about some of the assassination attempts on Fidel Castro. Study the FBI directive on the Black Panther Party. You could be a nice guy, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and end up getting a government bullet in the throat. You better wake up. You could end up on that terrorist list to be terminated just like there are regular everyday American citizens all across the country that can't get on an airplane.
Eric Childs said:This story has a level of sensationalism to it "the Obama Administration asserts its right to off you", really now. The "assertion" is that the government has the right to kill suspected terrorist. You guys make it sound like the administration will kill anyone whom it deems an enemy. This administration has no record of doing any harm to innocent citizens.
Permalink Reply by One Iam on January 5, 2011 at 9:35pm One I am, you are most definitely correct. I just did not like Tavis and West inferring that the Obama Administration is doing something new. Come on Tavis and West, you know what your little statement is doing. Just as One Iam said this stuff with the government has been going on for many many years and is noting new. So Tavis and West...STOP HATING THE ADMINISTRATION!!!
One Iam said:What country have you been living in? The US government does murder or railroad into jail anyone or group that it deems is an enemy worthy of such. Go and read about some of the assassination attempts on Fidel Castro. Study the FBI directive on the Black Panther Party. You could be a nice guy, like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and end up getting a government bullet in the throat. You better wake up. You could end up on that terrorist list to be terminated just like there are regular everyday American citizens all across the country that can't get on an airplane.
Eric Childs said:This story has a level of sensationalism to it "the Obama Administration asserts its right to off you", really now. The "assertion" is that the government has the right to kill suspected terrorist. You guys make it sound like the administration will kill anyone whom it deems an enemy. This administration has no record of doing any harm to innocent citizens.
Permalink Reply by Ikalean Wilkerson on January 12, 2011 at 4:18pm Fair enough but the topic being discussed along with the other measures I mentioned plus increasing the war budget to a new high, bailing out the banks etc are currently taking place under the Obama administration regardless if other administrations committed similar acts(which they did and I’m certainly not excusing them) it doesn’t excuse the fact that Obama has kept these policies in place especially when he said he would do otherwise. At this point Obama has shown his true colors he works for the “elite” members of society the same way Bush, Clinton, Regan, etc did. The blame the bush game is dead at this point. Also when Bush was in office damn near everybody was getting in his behind(except redneck idiots) especially black people and rightfully so. Now that Obama and his administration are doing the same exact thing as Bush at this very moment we’re suppose to let it slide? Wrong is wrong period.
Ikalean Wilkerson said:
My problem is that Tavis and Dr. West inferred that "President Obama" is up to something no other president has ever done. Shoot if you don't like someone, don't try to find something you don't like and act as if they are the only perpertrators, heck Bush had bunches of people killed, Bush's VP nearly killed his own friend while "hunting", not to mention the soldiers deaths that have been covered up. What Tavis and West brought up has been done for years, do Tavis and West...bring up a new topic.
Permalink Reply by Ikalean Wilkerson on January 12, 2011 at 4:21pm Barack Obama deal with these issues as well; human tortue.
Permalink Reply by Ikalean Wilkerson on January 12, 2011 at 4:27pm I am not really taking you guys to task so to speak but I was somewhat disappointed that you did not question the classification ofMuslim extremist as terrorist and their terrorist activities as “acts of war.” Once you buy into that argument, it does not matter whether the “terrorist” is an American or not as the rules of war apply. However, the so-called terrorist are really organized criminals. War is between two states and not a state and an organized group ofcivilians. Its interesting how the Bush administration used the concept of “war on poverty” and “war on drugs” to declare “war on terrorism” without anybody noticing the differences. Of course we now know the USA needed the war classification to invade Iraq and secondarily Afghanistan. The classification was also used to create the Homeland Security infrastructure with its exceptional and massive surveillance system. The public got played! I don’t expect Smiley and West to get played.
Love what you brothers are doing. Its a great partnership! The program is rich in information, insight and camaraderie!
Clark Arrington
Dar es Salaam
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